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Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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> Taking out a competitor is good for Slack, said Butterfield: “There’s fewer choices for people.” Strange quote.

Could also be a reporter misquoting. Reporter says, “how do you respond to someone who says this creates fewer choices for people?” CEO: “There’s fewer choices for people, but they are better than choices.” Boom, first half is the money quote.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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post #28

Stride was launched last year. I guess it didn't get much traction then if they gave up on it in less than a year. For consumer it is of course bit sad to see the 800lb gorilla just keep growing and eating up competition, but I can see how this makes sense to at least Atlassian; they are getting better Slack integrations, and possibly other partnership benefits for what seems like essentially free. Not sure how much…

I was curious whether or not the Sride project was failing. We were about to do a migration once some key integration things were done; doesn't look like they'll finish those.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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post #26

I've never really gotten into any of Atlasssian's products. It seems like they make tools for managers with bolt on functionality for engineers (which may be why I never caught onto their products). I hope this is good news for Slack, but as a software engineer today, Atlasssian's products are not the first ones I would recommend in any category.

Jira was great, ~15 years ago. It was a tool that actually helped development, especially with the GreenHopper plugin Now almost the entirety of its functionality is to help various middle managers track things that are important to them, while continuously making development slower. Manager 1 wants to track Metric A? Add a drop down. Manager 2 wants to track Metric B? Add a new form to fill out. And tie them all tog…

Hey, it could be worse. It could be VersionOne.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

#114
There's always Cisco Webex Teams. I actually kinda like it, although I do work for Cisco. Unfortunately I have to keep it, Slack, and Jabber open on my laptop so I can communicate with anyone anytime (/sarcasm). On my phone I only have Webex Teams which is great when I'm away from my computer.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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post #15

>> We are purchasing the IP for Hipchat Cloud and Stride It would be nice if Slack took a leaf out of the Hipchat play book and made a native (non-electron) Mac app.

What's wrong with the electron app?

As others have said, it's not great resources-wise, but it also doesn't fit in well with the OS.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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post #80
post #4

Am I the only one who sees this as anti-competitive? This is basically collusion - Atlassian agreeing not to compete in chat in return for a payment from Slack. It almost seems like we're intent on making literally every mistake we made with traditional businesses, but with electronic products.

I mean this without being tongue in cheek, but Teams itself is anti-competitive. It's a horrible product which is basically only in use because it's bundled into Office 365. Absolutely nothing in Teams is not done better in other products, including Microsoft's own products such as Skype for Business or plain old Skype. Business chats in general are just completely incongruent with what users are expecting from end-u…

What about it is horrible? My team loves it.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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post #66

Well, thanks to this today I learned that Microsoft had a product called Teams. I didn't see anybody using it but I saw plenty of people using Slack. Maybe is Team addressed to big companies? My customers are all medium or small. Does anyone here have some experience using Teams? Is it really in competition with Slack?

Teams is a shitty version of Slack but it’s bundled and included with Office 365 which almost every big business licenses. Free is a hard offer to refuse.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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post #26

I've never really gotten into any of Atlasssian's products. It seems like they make tools for managers with bolt on functionality for engineers (which may be why I never caught onto their products). I hope this is good news for Slack, but as a software engineer today, Atlasssian's products are not the first ones I would recommend in any category.

What would you recommend instead of Jira?

Clubhouse [1] It has flexibility of Trello and features of Jira. We have been using for a year and we really enjoy it.

[1] https://clubhouse.io

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Taking out a competitor is good for Slack, said Butterfield: “There’s fewer choices for people.”"

Really surprised that a CEO would make a comment like that on the record.

Well it’s not anti-competitive to be competitive...
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