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Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Post by partiallypro »

pmontra wrote: post #66

Well, thanks to this today I learned that Microsoft had a product called Teams. I didn't see anybody using it but I saw plenty of people using Slack. Maybe is Team addressed to big companies? My customers are all medium or small. Does anyone here have some experience using Teams? Is it really in competition with Slack?

Teams at the moment is mostly used by massive companies, as Slack is really built for smaller teams. I like Slack, but it is very unreliable. I am constantly disconnected, have messages never sent. This is not on the free version, it's almost inexcusable in the amount of times it happens.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Post by arkitaip »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #78

Tangentially related, recently Google pushed an ad for chat.google.com my way (in a Gmail popup no less). It seems they made a Slack competitor, it sort of uses Hangouts for one-on-one chats but its own thing for groups (and groups from Hangouts don't show up there) and broke Hangouts in Gmail since then (some conversation where the other person wrote the last message shows as unread the next time I open gmail).

Of course they released another IM product. Their IM teams are at war with each other.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Post by dawhizkid »

Interesting. I worked at a healthcare tech startup last year and the reason why we had to use Hipchat is because the self-hosted Hipchat Server was HIPAA-compliant and Slack does not have a HIPAA-compliant self-hosted option. Have no idea what they're going to do (or anyone who needs to comply with stricter regulatory guidelines that prevents use of cloud-based messaging apps).

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Post by Spooky23 »

slivym wrote: post #4

Am I the only one who sees this as anti-competitive? This is basically collusion - Atlassian agreeing not to compete in chat in return for a payment from Slack. It almost seems like we're intent on making literally every mistake we made with traditional businesses, but with electronic products.

Slack going out of business is also anti-competitive. There is probably something like a half billion Teams users now.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Post by andreineculau »

strictnein wrote: post #62
joeblau wrote: post #26

I've never really gotten into any of Atlasssian's products. It seems like they make tools for managers with bolt on functionality for engineers (which may be why I never caught onto their products). I hope this is good news for Slack, but as a software engineer today, Atlasssian's products are not the first ones I would recommend in any category.

Jira was great, ~15 years ago. It was a tool that actually helped development, especially with the GreenHopper plugin Now almost the entirety of its functionality is to help various middle managers track things that are important to them, while continuously making development slower. Manager 1 wants to track Metric A? Add a drop down. Manager 2 wants to track Metric B? Add a new form to fill out. And tie them all tog…

> Now almost the entirety of its functionality is to help various middle managers track things that are important to them, while continuously making development slower.

This!

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Post by Deimorz »

gms wrote: post #24
thedangler wrote: post #7

We were using hipchat, worked fine with our custom integrations and workflow. Stopped working when they switched to stride ( had to do with version of jira we are on) Now that my integrations are all most working again I have to probably look at using mattermost. We don't want to use slack.

Why not?

Probably because they don't want to (or can't) have a huge portion of their company's internal communication stored forever on a third-party server.

I still find it hard to believe that so many companies are okay with doing that.

Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian

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Post by pilsetnieks »

qabqabaca wrote: post #57
joeblau wrote: post #26

I've never really gotten into any of Atlasssian's products. It seems like they make tools for managers with bolt on functionality for engineers (which may be why I never caught onto their products). I hope this is good news for Slack, but as a software engineer today, Atlasssian's products are not the first ones I would recommend in any category.

What would you recommend instead of Jira?

Phabricator (https://www.phacility.com/phabricator/)
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