Can you use self host slack?
You can self host mattermost, which has been working well for us so far.
Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
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Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
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#43I hope this means Slack will invest in improving their core desktop offering; it is a notorious resource hog
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#44Although it reduces competition in short term, it’s likely to give more competition in the long term by creating a strong competitor to Microsoft. And based on the numbers in the article, it seems like Atlassian had less than 4% marketshare (Slack expects single digit growth - and assuming they have around 50% of the market) This deals seems like the last step before a full - and in competitive terms logical - merger…
>Although it reduces competition in short term, it’s likely to give more competition in the long term by creating a strong competitor to Microsoft.
That's pretty dependent on which way Slack decides to go in terms of facilitating large Enterprises' needs for absolute control of and visibility into communications platforms. Monitoring and governance of Slack is, at present, a goddamned nightmare. The third party tools that currently exist are, in my experience, somewhat unreliable, and all of them are crippled by the fact that Slack's API drastically limits visibility into the platform. I've worked with more than one very large Enterprise customer with special compliance needs whose Slack instance(s) are one foul-up away from having a regulator rain down fines/sanctions, and in every case Slack is pretending like the issues don't exist while my customers shove their head in the sand. And compliance aside: the Slack API doesn't even have methods in place to deal with things like emoji-react trolling on read-only announcement channels, and a plethora of other little features required to control toxic and obnoxious behaviors.
I love Slack to death, but it's not an Enterprise product yet.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#45What options are left for self-hosted chat systems with comparable features? We've been using self-hosted Hipchat at our company and there is zero chance we will ever use a cloud solution.
* Zulip https://zulipchat.com/
* Rocket.chat https://rocket.chat/
* Mattermost https://mattermost.com/
* Riot/Matrix https://riot.im/
And XMPP is not completely dead, depends on what you mean "comparable features".
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#46Of course, in an ideal world, the obvious technical flaws in chat products would easily enable competitors to “take on” the broken ones.
Why does it seem so hard to get chat right? Heck, Yahoo Messenger had lots of features in about year 2000 that we still lack or struggle with in newer products?
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weren't both Slack's and Atlassian's offerings cloud-based?
No. Hipchat had an on-prem option. In fact, I'm kind of stunned to see that the blog post on Slack's website doesn't mention the on-prem version at all. Given that on-prem was one of the differentiators that Hipchat had against Slack (and one of the reasons that many companies stuck with Hipchat, even though Slack had more features), the lack of discussion around the on-prem version seems like a huge mistake.
Why would you mention a feature that cuts against your core business model?
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#48tl;dr: Atlassian discontinues HipChat, sells some important HipChat's IP to Slack, and is concentrating on a better Slack integration.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks more like a product acquisition than collusion. > Slack will pay an undisclosed amount over the next three years to acquire Atlassian’s HipChat and Stride products
...which are being immediately shut down.
Their official post says they are working on a transition path:
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#50Woah, this is huge. Atlassian is really going for the "everything a tech shop needs" gold.
The exact opposite, Atlassian is selling and retreating.
I see it as a step towards integrating more (or in this case better IMO) things into their ecosystem. Consolidating Hipchat with Slack is a step toward that.