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Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by nasalgoat »

Apocryphon wrote: post #76
robbrit wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I moved from Montreal to SF a few years back and although my rent tripled, so did my income. The net result is much more savings than I would have gotten if I had stayed in Canada. If you're a saver/investor then it makes much more sense to move to the US for a little while, save up a decent sized nest egg, then move back.

One wonders how difficult is it to work remotely for a US firm while in Canada.

I decided to look for a remote job recently. I went down a list of various job sites specializing in them, and a few days later I had a remote job that pays six figures.

I would say it's not difficult at all - there were hundreds of job listings.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by kluqle »

DKnoll wrote: post #127
captain_perl wrote: post #117

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> hottest neighbourhood in Mississauga Mississauga ... lol. What's funny is I remember when the downtown waterfront condos were $50,000 each and nobody wanted to buy - long walk to downtown and freezing cold in winter. How things change.

Mississauga has a larger population than Vancouver, it's not some backwater suburb of Toronto. Have you ever been to Port Credit? Come around and I'll buy you a drink. You'll eat your words lol. I hope for your sake you bought one of those 50k condos. I'm 25 so I missed the boat on cheap real estate.

> Mississauga has a larger population than Vancouver, it's not some backwater suburb of Toronto.

Big backwater suburb of Toronto?

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by kluqle »

apercu wrote: post #83
JPKab wrote: post #72

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The weather in Toronto is god awful compared to San Francisco. Honestly, it's bad compared to almost any US city. I get why Vancouver is so expensive, but never understood Toronto's prices.

Just curious, what cities are you referring to? I've spent time in NY, Chicago, Minneapolis, Milwaukee/Madison, Des Moines, St Louis, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Auston, San Antonio and many more. Toronto's weather is pretty similar to more than half that list. No, it's not California, but neither is 97% of the US.

> I've spent time in NY, Chicago, Minneapolis, Milwaukee/Madison, Des Moines, St Louis, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Auston, San Antonio and many more. Toronto's weather is pretty similar to more than half that list.

Which half? Did you include the rest as an exercise? Lol.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by DKnoll »

kluqle wrote: post #132
DKnoll wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mississauga has a larger population than Vancouver, it's not some backwater suburb of Toronto. Have you ever been to Port Credit? Come around and I'll buy you a drink. You'll eat your words lol. I hope for your sake you bought one of those 50k condos. I'm 25 so I missed the boat on cheap real estate.

> Mississauga has a larger population than Vancouver, it's not some backwater suburb of Toronto. Big backwater suburb of Toronto?

Good one.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by hkjayakumar »

ttt111222333 wrote: post #27
neivin wrote: post #24

As a Toronto native, who now lives in Silicon Valley (part of the brain drain from Waterloo), there is a reason why everyone leaves Toronto/Canada - the salaries are simply laughable when compared to the bay area. The only reason you would stay in Toronto for a job in tech is if you wanted to stay close to family, or your girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse. Or, you just hate money and being at the center of the tech industr…

There are no big companies in Toronto that have tech jobs. Google, Facebook, Airbnb, Uber, etc. don't have tech jobs in Toronto. Amazon just started adding tech jobs in Toronto in the past maybe year or two and Shopify is the only exception to this rule. If any toronto natives know of some big companies in Toronto with tech jobs please prove me wrong.

Uber does. They run an ATG division in Toronto.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by zcid »

Bartweiss wrote: post #109
zcid wrote: post #7

This is a garbage article. At least link to the original press release from CBRE: https://www.cbre.us/about/media-center/tech-thirty-2016 .

That press release is 2016, and puts San Francisco at the top of the list. The HuffPo article makes its claim using 2012 - 2017 stats, so presumably it's a newer report. Here are the CBRE report summaries for 2017 and 2018: https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Tech-30-2017 https://www.cbre.us/about/media-center/tech-talent-2018 https://www.cbre.us/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talent... I still appreciate th…

Thanks for the correction.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by angerbot »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #98
angerbot wrote: post #19

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I'm at $90k with ~3 years experience (located in Toronto). Many of my colleagues are either at 90 or very close (~85) with similar experience. I've lived in Vancouver as well and have seen similar compensation.

I'm located in Montreal. Could that explain the difference?

Yes, cost of living in Montreal is nowhere near what it is in Vancouver or Toronto

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by infinite8s »

robbrit wrote: post #66
AnthonyWnC wrote: post #38

Also Toronto native; was making just under 100k ~ 3 years ago in SysEng/devops role. Now working in NYC in similar role at ~ 185k (Cdn). Even with CoL (housing) of NYC, my savings is much higher. Personally I much prefer to live in Toronto but the salary is just too low.

Agreed. I moved from Montreal to SF a few years back and although my rent tripled, so did my income. The net result is much more savings than I would have gotten if I had stayed in Canada. If you're a saver/investor then it makes much more sense to move to the US for a little while, save up a decent sized nest egg, then move back.

How difficult is it to move that nest egg back to Canada?

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by s73v3r_ »

nailer wrote: post #123
s73v3r_ wrote: post #122

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Well, if you look the wrong way, you have a risk of having your children ripped away from you.

That's been happening for a while and only affects illegal immigration though.

Only? Those are human beings too. And it was also affecting those attempting to seek asylum.

Re: Toronto adds more tech jobs than Silicon Valley in past 5 years

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Post by ekovarski »

robbrit wrote: post #56
DKnoll wrote: post #28

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You don't need to live downtown. I commute via car from Port Credit where I have an $850/mo bachelor apartment and work at Queen and Bathurst.

You lost me at "commute via car". Toronto has a reputation for some of the worst traffic in North America. It might be cheaper to live that far away, but the cost in quality of life + hours commuting isn't worth the trade. Instead you can just go to a smaller town like Waterloo or a cheaper city like Montreal or Ottawa.

+1 Waterloo/Kitchener area; As for commuting via car, the TTC hasn't fared well as well. Satisfaction keeps dropping month over month in polls. Driving isn't an ideal option either due to the traffic - it is the worst indeed.
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