I’m glad it was just a software bug. It still seems like Apple’s quality control has gone way done over the last few years. My hypothesis is that there has been a change in culture as the company gets bigger with less emphasis on rigorous testing of the code? It would be interesting to get some perspective from a longtime Apple employee on this.
It still seems like Apple’s quality control has gone way done over the last few years. I doubt it. They've had problems for years... bulging batteries, bad solder, bendy iPhones, etc. But, is the quality really going down, or is Apple just an easy target? I tend to think it's more of the later. I've had Lenovos and Dells for work and they've not been perfect.
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Probably the MSR_TURBO_POWER_LIMIT value as described in https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/91256u/optimal_...
That analysis is incredible, how was the OP able to figure all of that out!?
>> Originally posted at MacRumors by winterny >> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/optimal-cpu-tuning-sett...
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> Yeah, and if this will make the Macbook run so hot it will bend... That's a big "if". They're not removing the thermal controls, just making them work correctly.
Well, VW etc didn't remove emissions control either. They just changed them such that they work better in "benchmarks" at other costs. Now these laptops work better in benchmark, but at what costs? Longetivity of the laptop or battery? Keyboard melting away? Obviously it's not going to bend. That was a snarky comment. But you get my point.
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The article made it seem like this only affected a small number of units? Their quality control probably doesn’t look at every single unit. Although it’s interesting that they didn’t find it at all, since reading HN and reddit gave me the impression it was very widespread.
Generally you can’t get a sense for how widespread an issue is from social media, because it’s a perfect medium for confirmation bias. Confirming links and stories are shared/upvoted/forwarded while non-confirming ones are ignored or dismissed (or outright attacked for some reason).
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They did (quietly) roll out improvements[1] to the keyboard, though time will tell if they actually help enough... 1: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/7/19/17590100/a...
They need to improve the key travel. If I wanted to type on a flat board, I'd get a Yoga Book. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/android-tablets/yoga-bo...
I reckon keyboards are a matter of taste ultimately.
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Huge performance difference - how did they not notice before?
The article made it seem like this only affected a small number of units? Their quality control probably doesn’t look at every single unit. Although it’s interesting that they didn’t find it at all, since reading HN and reddit gave me the impression it was very widespread.
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#67And the system as a whole will still run quite hot for high CPU+GPU loads, so who knows how that affects the electronics and battery life longer term.
Please, Apple, just make it 1mm thicker already.
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#68Does this impact all macbook pros with the touch bar, or just the 2018 models?
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Generally you can’t get a sense for how widespread an issue is from social media, because it’s a perfect medium for confirmation bias. Confirming links and stories are shared/upvoted/forwarded while non-confirming ones are ignored or dismissed (or outright attacked for some reason).
This is basically the story of the modern world as viewed through the distorting lens that is media (and especially social media). I wish people would take the two sentences you wrote and then use them as a corrective lens that undoes this distorted perspective.
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They had the same issues before Steve Jobs, 99% of people seriously do not care or even knew about this. What's more important is fixing and moving on to the next problem. Technologies are so complex nowadays that it is becoming virtually impossible to produce anything without issues.
They had the issues with Steve Jobs but they also had Steve Jobs to save their ass.
Batterygate recently, or bendgate?