Thanks Apple, now back to keyboard and Touch Bar.
Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
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Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#12Well that's quite nice
If they are on the up and up and that really is the problem.
I hope it is though. I was getting really depressed at the idea of switching to something else.
Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#13> Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less tha…
My guess is a sensor requires a signed connection, much like how HDCP works. Seems a bit over-engineered if Apple is building protected sensors, but would also love to hear from someone in the know.
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#14Yeah, and if this will make the Macbook run so hot it will bend, Apple needs to be sued first until they will start repairing this under "extended warranty." Looks like I forgot I am on HN - the Apple fanboy Club. Just look back how often Apple had to get sued first to get them to admit to an issue and to repair their own fuckup.
> Yeah, and if this will make the Macbook run so hot it will bend...
That's a big "if". They're not removing the thermal controls, just making them work correctly.
Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#15> Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less tha…
I don't see how you can get more cooling with a firmware change when the fans are already going at full speed.
Does that mean the whole unit will now run hotter before it starts to throttle? How is this going to impact some of those bad solder joints MacBooks are famous for?
Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#16> Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less tha…
My bet is that sensors don’t output absolute values and you need to use an offset to get the correct “reading” for your thermal profile and cooling.
Basically based on the location and type of sensor(s) and your cooling solution you will apply an offset to get the actual temperature to be used for managing the power profile and cooling of the component.
This is pretty common and the reason why many apps don’t readout the temperature of newly released components correctly.
Ofc it can be something completely different and Apple is hiding the actual cause but I don’t deal with tinfoil fashion accessories.
Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#17> Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less tha…
I don't see how you can get more cooling with a firmware change when the fans are already going at full speed. Does that mean the whole unit will now run hotter before it starts to throttle? How is this going to impact some of those bad solder joints MacBooks are famous for?
>I don't see how you can get more cooling with a firmware change when the fans are already going at full speed
It's not about what you do when the temperature if at its peaks and the fans are going at full speed, it's about how you avoid getting there.
>How is this going to impact some of those bad solder joints MacBooks are famous for?
When did MacBooks became famous for "bad solder joints"?
Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#18> Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less tha…
Yikes, pretty bad showing by Apple here. They don't have the leeway that they did when they had Steve Jobs... they have tremendous brand loyalty, but will need to be more careful in the future.
> they have tremendous brand loyalty, but will need to be more careful in the future.
Does that really matter though? I was just discussing this with someone over the weekend... his thesis was that people buy Apple because of branding, which might be true as far as the majority of customers are concerned... But for people like me (powerusers), MacBooks are simply the best possible choice. Everything else is either adware (Windows 10), or not usable (Linux laptops lack deiver support (last I heard) You can’t install software on Chromebooks, Windows 7 doesn’t have a Unix subsystem). Not to mention that Apple hardware is beyond superior, and the software mostly just works (things like wi-fi, backups, sharing, ...)
Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#19Thanks Apple, now back to keyboard and Touch Bar.
They did (quietly) roll out improvements[1] to the keyboard, though time will tell if they actually help enough...
1: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/7/19/17590100/a...
Re: Apple releases software fix for MacBook Pro slowdown
#20> Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we’ve identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today’s macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less tha…
My guess is a sensor requires a signed connection, much like how HDCP works. Seems a bit over-engineered if Apple is building protected sensors, but would also love to hear from someone in the know.
My guess would be that they shipped with an updated firmware version to the one programmed in the factory. It should have upgraded the first time the device is powered on but because of a missing security signature or maybe key to verify a signature, the firmware update wasn't applied. This is still just a guess but signed firmware is becoming much more common.