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Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by coderesearch »

EU GDPR compatibility would be a cool thing - I am sure that people have been asking for that "long time enough" ago.

Also now that this software has left prototype status for long enough time - why are you still using ruby?

Ruby is much too slow and bloated for production - there are only a few companies out there that missed the right time to jump from the ruby-prototype-bloat and have enough money to burn to just stick with it, but for a project like gitlab this is a huge problem. Judging from the roadmap there seem to be many bored developers with no good ideas about what to do next, so maybe unbloating could be a good direction?

There must be at least one person in that team with a feeling for architectural brilliance?

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by DouweM »

nathan_f77 wrote: post #34

A few years ago I really wanted to join GitHub as a software engineer. I was living in San Francisco and visited their office for some events, and I thought it would be an awesome place to work. I tried reaching out to a few people who worked there, but I could never get my foot in the door. There were a lot of things I would have loved to build at GitHub, and they were all the same things that GitLab is doing now. I…

Hey Nathan, I'm very curious about what you mean by "I also don't think they have a very good company culture".

I've been at GitLab since early 2015 (employee #10), and the culture is one of the major reasons why I joined, and stayed. :)

Would you mind elaborating?

For anyone else reading along, our Handbook (https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/) covers our culture (and every other aspect of working here) very well.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by sleepychu »

danpalmer wrote: post #47
IshKebab wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not great pay - very interesting to see a direct comparison of pay levels in different locations though, e.g. Scotland pays 1/3 of New York.

I think it comes down to their policy of adjusting to provide the same quality of life, which I disagree with for remote companies. Their London salaries are fine, but one of the main reasons for me working remotely would be to increase my quality of life by living more remotely but still earning a London-like salary. Otherwise you've moved away from many conveniences, will likely have to pay much more for travel, bu…

Yeah this is very much discouraging you from living in a low cost of living area. After all, compensation should be about the value of the work you're doing. Not the value of the money to you. If we experience high deflation, should my salary go down?!

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by arihantar »

Aissen wrote: post #43
tempay wrote: post #39

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Example: https://about.gitlab.com/job-families/engineering/developer/... Full details are here: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c...

Thanks, this made me discover that GitLab doesn't hire everywhere it seems; these countries are excluded: Brazil, Crimea, Cuba, France, Iran, Ireland, Japan, North Korea, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sudan, Sweden, Syria https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/faq/#country-hiring-guidelines

GitLab would love to hire from the places above but I guess taxes and government policies are a big barrier IIRC

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by leipert »

adrinavarro wrote: post #59
Aissen wrote: post #43

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Thanks, this made me discover that GitLab doesn't hire everywhere it seems; these countries are excluded: Brazil, Crimea, Cuba, France, Iran, Ireland, Japan, North Korea, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sudan, Sweden, Syria https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/faq/#country-hiring-guidelines

I wonder why Spain, France, Portugal, Ireland, Sweden… are excluded, but not Germany or the United Kingdom or many other EU countries.

Disclaimer: Working for GitLab since March.

Several countries are on hiring stop currently, mainly those that you have listed. This is due to administrative reasons, as people from those countries work as contractors, as we have no entities there. In Europe we currently have an entity in NL, BE, UK and DE. Furthermore we have an Indian, Chinese and of course US entity.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by arihantar »

nathan_f77 wrote: post #40
fqb wrote: post #35

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Could you elaborate about the salaries for remote workers? I'm a frontend developer in southern Europe and I'd love to work for Gitlab because I love the product.

I don't have any first-hand experience, and I'm sure there are exceptions. I've heard that GitLab will pay around $80k for a remote software engineer in a country with a low cost-of-living. That engineer could be earning $150k-$250k at a different company (e.g. Basecamp, GitHub, etc.) I realize that $80k is a lot of money for Europe/UK/Asia/South America/rest of the US. But if you're a top engineer, you could double…

A top Engineer will go to a company which aligns with his personal and professional goals. With your example, no one would have created a startup and simply working for someone who pays more.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by Aissen »

leipert wrote: post #65
adrinavarro wrote: post #59

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I wonder why Spain, France, Portugal, Ireland, Sweden… are excluded, but not Germany or the United Kingdom or many other EU countries.

Disclaimer: Working for GitLab since March. Several countries are on hiring stop currently, mainly those that you have listed. This is due to administrative reasons, as people from those countries work as contractors, as we have no entities there. In Europe we currently have an entity in NL, BE, UK and DE. Furthermore we have an Indian, Chinese and of course US entity.

The page specifies that even contractors from these countries are excluded.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by nathan_f77 »

DouweM wrote: post #62
nathan_f77 wrote: post #34

A few years ago I really wanted to join GitHub as a software engineer. I was living in San Francisco and visited their office for some events, and I thought it would be an awesome place to work. I tried reaching out to a few people who worked there, but I could never get my foot in the door. There were a lot of things I would have loved to build at GitHub, and they were all the same things that GitLab is doing now. I…

Hey Nathan, I'm very curious about what you mean by "I also don't think they have a very good company culture". I've been at GitLab since early 2015 (employee #10), and the culture is one of the major reasons why I joined, and stayed. :) Would you mind elaborating? For anyone else reading along, our Handbook ( https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/ ) covers our culture (and every other aspect of working here) very well.

Hi there, glad to hear that you enjoy working at GitLab!

My impression was just based on some things I've been hearing about compensation, and a couple of negative comments and articles.

I think the best way to explain it is that GitLab sounds like a more traditional place to work. Similar to companies in the UK, Europe, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. It's very unlikely that I would accept a job in one of these countries for the same reasons. Software engineers are typically not paid very well and are treated more like "code monkeys" who report to their managers and don't have any self-direction.

I guess I've just been spoiled by Silicon Valley, so the rest of the world doesn't feel very competitive compared to some of these SV startups.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by icebraining »

Aissen wrote: post #67
leipert wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: Working for GitLab since March. Several countries are on hiring stop currently, mainly those that you have listed. This is due to administrative reasons, as people from those countries work as contractors, as we have no entities there. In Europe we currently have an entity in NL, BE, UK and DE. Furthermore we have an Indian, Chinese and of course US entity.

The page specifies that even contractors from these countries are excluded.

I think leipert is saying that people from those countries only work as contractors, and that involves specific administrative problems/burden which Gitlab can't cope with at the moment.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by Nokinside »

nathan_f77 wrote: post #34

A few years ago I really wanted to join GitHub as a software engineer. I was living in San Francisco and visited their office for some events, and I thought it would be an awesome place to work. I tried reaching out to a few people who worked there, but I could never get my foot in the door. There were a lot of things I would have loved to build at GitHub, and they were all the same things that GitLab is doing now. I…

>a bit sketchy that they ripped off GitHub and undercut them on pricing.

Can you elaborate on that?

Because ripping off and competing against original developers is what open source specially allows. That's one of it's benefits of open source. If someone can improve and and do cheaper, they should do it. I don't see any moral implications.

Software business service business not manufacturing business. (at least 99%). If you are against ripping off, maybe put more restrictive license or go closed source. Then you can leverage accumulating IP from work you do.

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