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Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by IshKebab » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:28 AM UTC

tempay wrote: post #39

fqb wrote: post #35

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Could you elaborate about the salaries for remote workers? I'm a frontend developer in southern Europe and I'd love to work for Gitlab because I love the product.

Example: https://about.gitlab.com/job-families/engineering/developer/... Full details are here: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c...

Not great pay - very interesting to see a direct comparison of pay levels in different locations though, e.g. Scotland pays 1/3 of New York.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by dom96 » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:30 AM UTC

GitLab is a great service, not perfect but a good alternative to GitHub. I actually use Gitter far more than GitLab these days, GitLab acquired them a while back and I'm really disappointed to see it reduced to stagnation. The product hasn't improved at all since the acquisition, you can argue that it's "finished" and it is 90% there. There are rough edges that make it more annoying to use than Telegram, Slack, etc. The primary one being how they handle notifications on their Android app. It's annoying me every day that this has been effectively broken for years now.

Maybe some of the GitLab guys that hang around here can answer my concerns. Why are you guys neglecting Gitter?

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by Aissen » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:38 AM UTC

tempay wrote: post #39

fqb wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate about the salaries for remote workers? I'm a frontend developer in southern Europe and I'd love to work for Gitlab because I love the product.

Example: https://about.gitlab.com/job-families/engineering/developer/... Full details are here: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c...

Thanks, this made me discover that GitLab doesn't hire everywhere it seems; these countries are excluded:

    Brazil, Crimea, Cuba, France, Iran, Ireland, Japan, North Korea, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sudan, Sweden, Syria

https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/faq/#country-hiring-guidelines

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by fqb » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:42 AM UTC

nathan_f77 wrote: post #40

fqb wrote: post #35

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Could you elaborate about the salaries for remote workers? I'm a frontend developer in southern Europe and I'd love to work for Gitlab because I love the product.

I don't have any first-hand experience, and I'm sure there are exceptions. I've heard that GitLab will pay around $80k for a remote software engineer in a country with a low cost-of-living. That engineer could be earning $150k-$250k at a different company (e.g. Basecamp, GitHub, etc.) I realize that $80k is a lot of money for Europe/UK/Asia/South America/rest of the US. But if you're a top engineer, you could double…

Thank you for the information

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by fqb » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:43 AM UTC

Aissen wrote: post #43

tempay wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Example: https://about.gitlab.com/job-families/engineering/developer/... Full details are here: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c...

Thanks, this made me discover that GitLab doesn't hire everywhere it seems; these countries are excluded: Brazil, Crimea, Cuba, France, Iran, Ireland, Japan, North Korea, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sudan, Sweden, Syria https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/faq/#country-hiring-guidelines

Seems like my country it's excluded. Gotta look for another company then

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by maccard » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:49 AM UTC

nathan_f77 wrote: post #40

fqb wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate about the salaries for remote workers? I'm a frontend developer in southern Europe and I'd love to work for Gitlab because I love the product.

I don't have any first-hand experience, and I'm sure there are exceptions. I've heard that GitLab will pay around $80k for a remote software engineer in a country with a low cost-of-living. That engineer could be earning $150k-$250k at a different company (e.g. Basecamp, GitHub, etc.) I realize that $80k is a lot of money for Europe/UK/Asia/South America/rest of the US. But if you're a top engineer, you could double…

They have a calculator [0]

The same job, with the same experience is paid less than half what it is in SF in the UK. That's not really very enticing.

https://about.gitlab.com/job-families/engineering/developer/...

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by danpalmer » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:57 AM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #41

tempay wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Example: https://about.gitlab.com/job-families/engineering/developer/... Full details are here: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c...

Not great pay - very interesting to see a direct comparison of pay levels in different locations though, e.g. Scotland pays 1/3 of New York.

I think it comes down to their policy of adjusting to provide the same quality of life, which I disagree with for remote companies. Their London salaries are fine, but one of the main reasons for me working remotely would be to increase my quality of life by living more remotely but still earning a London-like salary. Otherwise you've moved away from many conveniences, will likely have to pay much more for travel, but will still have to live with the quality of housing you could afford in the city.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by nicoburns » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 9:11 AM UTC

nathan_f77 wrote: post #34

A few years ago I really wanted to join GitHub as a software engineer. I was living in San Francisco and visited their office for some events, and I thought it would be an awesome place to work. I tried reaching out to a few people who worked there, but I could never get my foot in the door. There were a lot of things I would have loved to build at GitHub, and they were all the same things that GitLab is doing now. I…

> It still feels a bit sketchy that they ripped off GitHub and undercut them on pricing. But I'm sure I'll get over that eventually.

Isn't that a vital part of market economies functioning. I don't entirely agree with free markets, but IF we have this kind of system then this kind is absolutely crucial.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by rvanmil » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 9:16 AM UTC

nathan_f77 wrote: post #34

A few years ago I really wanted to join GitHub as a software engineer. I was living in San Francisco and visited their office for some events, and I thought it would be an awesome place to work. I tried reaching out to a few people who worked there, but I could never get my foot in the door. There were a lot of things I would have loved to build at GitHub, and they were all the same things that GitLab is doing now. I…

> I felt that there was so much potential to build things like CI, DevOps, and eventually a PaaS to compete with Heroku.

That would’ve been great and maybe they still will now that they’ve become part of Microsoft.

Re: GitLab Direction

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Post by kokey » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 9:37 AM UTC

kasparsklavins wrote: post #30

WhyDoPeople wrote: post #16

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Just curious, what specifically you mean by "surpass Github"? I mean this with no snarky intention. I'm just wondering what tasks Gitlab doesn't perform as well as Github for you; unless you were referring to the social awareness that Github has.

Performance and stability? Still yet to have a day where I havent had a 500 error on gitlab cloud.

GitLab is pretty impressive with the rate of features that gets shipped, but it does come at the cost of things not always been stable even though I think it's pretty impressive how stable it is considering the volume of changes being shipped. That said I found a way to have it stable is to run GitLab on your own systems using their omnibus installer, and then upgrade around the 20th of each month before the next big release so you upgrade to a version with most of the patch versions instead of the latest bigger version.