This guy is one indecent exposure instance away from potentially serious legal issues.
St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea
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#42Does anyone have a feeling for what the GDPR fine would be, if this had taken place in Europe? The number of people affected is fairly small, but this isn't the usual negligence or incompetence. (Ironically, the site is geoblocked for the EU.)
In England it'd be a letter ("Information notice") from the regulator explaining that this use needs to be registered.
After that it'd be fine of about a few thousand pounds. Here's the ICO page for enforcement action: https://ico.org.uk/action-weve-taken/enforcement/
Here's a CCTV case (without further publishing): https://ico.org.uk/action-weve-taken/enforcement/noble-desig...
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#43What is the expectation of privacy in a vehicle in a public place, according to the law? I’m not weighing in on what it should be - not being a lawyer I’m curious what the law or precedent dictates.
it's not even that, it's a question of the expectation of privacy in someone else's vehicle.
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#44Ring doorbell cameras record without consent, and can be shared via their neighborhood feature. Uber vehicles, like homes with Ring cameras, are private property. Aside from Uber serving as a middleman between private citizens and private property, what's the difference?
For one thing, doorbell cameras aren't generally streamed to the entire world.
would it make a difference if they were?
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#45Gargac’s videos fit into the newer “IRL,” or “In Real Life,” section that encourages users to stream their life outside of games. Gargac says he’s earned about $3,500 off Twitch users so far, including subscriptions, donations and tips called “bits.” That’s on top of about $150 to $300 he earns from fares on an average night. He typically drives on weekend nights because, he says, the bar crowd makes for the most ent…
I am not sure if providing benefits would offset the temptation to earn 3.5k extra income. Case in point, This guy is an army vet so presumably he already has health benefits. > treating all your citizens non citizen population need benefits too.
Gargac began driving for Uber, and occasionally Lyft, in early March. He was livestreaming all of his rides by the end of that month.
That $3.5k in extra income is over the course of about 3.5 months or so. Call it an extra $1000/month. A quick google tells me that health insurance costs average around $321 or $558 per month for an individual and $833 per month for a family, plus there is a multi-thousand dollar annual deductible. [2] Sounds to me like, yes, universal basic health coverage absolutely could help someone resist the temptation for that amount of money.
Edit: I will note the article indicates he is 32, so while he's a veteran, he's not a military retiree. He likely doesn't have military medical benefits.
non citizen population need benefits too.
I don't disagree with you.[2] I'm just shooting for the low hanging fruit first that hopefully more people will readily agree on.
[1] https://gusto.com/framework/health-benefits/how-much-is-heal...
[2] https://twitter.com/doreen_michele/status/102075093793191116...
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#46Remind me, why do people favor Uber over a taxi?
in the US, there was a problem with taxis not picking up some minorities. If you were LGBT, there was a high likelihood of harassment or abuse by the driver. These are far less likely in lyft/uber s
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#47Of course this dude is trying to be a cop.
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#48What is the expectation of privacy in a vehicle in a public place, according to the law? I’m not weighing in on what it should be - not being a lawyer I’m curious what the law or precedent dictates.
I think the fact that he is making money from the videos puts the situation into a different category, so that publicity rights come into play ...
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#49Am I the only one who has no problem with this? You're in someone else's car. Of course that person has a right to record you. And freedom of the press is a crucial cornerstone of a democratic state. Of course this person has a right to publish anything they please. This is just journalism paired with a new and novel social and technological configuration. Nothing more. Meanwhile, actual eavesdropping-style surveilla…
I, too, don't have a problem with this. Overall, video would increase safety of passenger and driver. My problem is with the comments on the video stream. For safety of passenger, I hope he obscures their names and addresses.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
For one thing, doorbell cameras aren't generally streamed to the entire world.
would it make a difference if they were?
Yeah I think so. Also if someone is clearly profiting from my privacy breach I'm going to be further upset.
Mind you I often, when going to people's houses ask them to turn off their Alexa or whatever and they're pretty happy to.
Hidden trigger phrases or targeted spying are a real hard to discover possibility.