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St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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> Missouri is a one-party consent state

There you have it- and a private car with a stranger driving is not a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy.

This is a non-story. Uber drivers near me have cameras, not for twitch, but just to protect themselves against unruly/lying passengers.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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> Missouri is a one-party consent state There you have it- and a private car with a stranger driving is not a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy. This is a non-story. Uber drivers near me have cameras, not for twitch, but just to protect themselves against unruly/lying passengers.

"without their consent" is a big difference from those "smile, you're on TV" security signs.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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This guy is a veteran?!! What a shame, that someone sworn to protect Americans now cowers behind semantics and loopholes to exploit their trust!! Clearly ridership dropped on notifying them of the streaming, no excuse can hide the truth here - he wants to exploit their trust!

For shame! And unlike the proud, honest veterans who actually care for Americans!

Edit: any lawyers here? Can this become a federal wiretapping case, as twitch streams across state lines? Like gambling online relies on meaningless semantics of being within a state that allows for such?

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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post #5

This guy is a veteran?!! What a shame, that someone sworn to protect Americans now cowers behind semantics and loopholes to exploit their trust!! Clearly ridership dropped on notifying them of the streaming, no excuse can hide the truth here - he wants to exploit their trust! For shame! And unlike the proud, honest veterans who actually care for Americans! Edit: any lawyers here? Can this become a federal wiretapping…

> someone sworn to protect Americans now cowers behind semantics and loopholes to exploit their trust

This is pretty American if you ask me

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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I do not agree with streaming but there are a LOT of uber and lyft drivers that now use cameras which record the interior of the car. If you pick up a lot of drunk people inevitably a bunch of them are going to be assholes, pick fights, claim sexual harassment when there was none, vomit in the back of the car and then deny the cleaning charge, etc. I do not envy the "dealing with the random public" part that full time uber/lyft drivers have to handle.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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Gargac’s videos fit into the newer “IRL,” or “In Real Life,” section that encourages users to stream their life outside of games.

Gargac says he’s earned about $3,500 off Twitch users so far, including subscriptions, donations and tips called “bits.” That’s on top of about $150 to $300 he earns from fares on an average night. He typically drives on weekend nights because, he says, the bar crowd makes for the most entertaining rides.

So, the Gig Economy, where so many workers are underpaid and have no benefits, etc, mated with the Internet version of Reality TV and this is their bastard child.

I find it disturbing, but I think the conversation here should really be about "What can the average person realistically do who doesn't want to be a wage slave anymore?" I mean, if we want people to not whore out their passengers' lives in a grotesque modern version of Candid Camera for cash, maybe we should, like, create jobs with adequate pay and benefits.

Bizarre concept, I know, that treating all your citizens like they deserve a living wage, medical care and basic, decent housing might promote ethical behavior. But I'm putting it out there anyway.

Re: St Louis Uber driver has been streaming his passengers online. Most have no idea

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post #5

This guy is a veteran?!! What a shame, that someone sworn to protect Americans now cowers behind semantics and loopholes to exploit their trust!! Clearly ridership dropped on notifying them of the streaming, no excuse can hide the truth here - he wants to exploit their trust! For shame! And unlike the proud, honest veterans who actually care for Americans! Edit: any lawyers here? Can this become a federal wiretapping…

I'm not a veteran, but I did take the oath of office. To me, the oath that I swore to uphold is to defend American government institutions (and particularly the agency I worked for) against foreign and domestic enemies. My oath doesn't mean I have any special commitments to individual American citizens acting in an individual capacity.
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