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Why punk keeps connecting people across space and time

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Re: Why punk keeps connecting people across space and time

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I'm a father of two and a startup founder. I like Detroit techno, and all relevant events _begin_ at 1 AM. The solution isn't a startup, the solution is techno parties that start at 9 PM.

maybe my lameness is showing, but why do people do this? even as a teenager I was usually running out of steam and thinking about bed at that time. is it for people who work late shifts or are there superhumans out there pregaming all night for a 1 AM show? or do they not even start partying until 10/11 PM?

From an attendee perspective I do remember those all night events to be quite fun, so I suppose that's why people do this. :) Honestly when I was younger, I was able to handle odd hours easier (that, or my tolerance for being sleep-deprived and off-kilter has gone way down). It helped that I was naturally a bit of a night owl, and it also helped that much of when I did this was when I was in college (much more flexible scheduling during those times). Back then the fun was worth any sleep-dep.

For others, some of it might indeed be helped by later work schedules as well -- a lot of service industry jobs for instance are not 9-5 and are more later shifts. On the other hand I do remember some talking about how little sleep they'd be getting before going into work, so...

On the organization side, I guess some of the reasons for many raves starting so late is that historically they often were after hours style events, sometimes semi-improvised and unlicensed. There was no liquor license getting in the way of closing earlier, and there's enough people that do want to party all night that it makes sense to do so. (It's not just restricted to electronic dance, where it is allowed, there are standard bars that are open 24/7).

I just chalk it up to a side effect of getting older. Even doing the standard dance club scene hours (which here often is a 10PM-2AMish scene, last call is 3AM here) would throw me off these days. (And I'm not even a parent, which I imagine cements your schedule even more!)

Re: Why punk keeps connecting people across space and time

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When you have that spirit, you enjoy connecting with other punks. I was a guitar player in a punk band in my twenties and we self-published our music. When I had the idea to create a company at the end of the nineties, I had that punk attitude to move forward and create a company even if the business around it was new and full of question marks. All my friends recommended not to create that startup, and in a true punk spirit I didn't care and moved forward, I can now say 25 years later that it was a great decision. Even today I keep that punk spirit when I make my decisions, if you feel you're doing something right you should just trust yourself even if you are alone on the market, avoid beeing a follower.

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"Punk's not dead, it just deserves to die when it becomes another stale cartoon." Dead Kennedys was on constant repeat on my walkman or home stereo as a 14-year-old in the late 80's. Every Friday was spent at the tiny all-ages punk club in our east-coast college town. Government Issue, Fugazi, Das Damen, Black Flag, Jello Biafra, even They Might Be Giants came through. Even now, 30 years later, I load up Frankenchris…

How do you feel about Death Grips?

Re: Why punk keeps connecting people across space and time

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Good choices. I was thinking of Bad Brains, who started out as a fusion band, and Craig Finn's early stuff, but that probably gets into more post-punk.

If we're going out in the world of genre-spanning punk, Husker Dü, Hot Snakes/Drive Like Jehu, Wire, and (possibly if you count them) Shellac deserve a strong recommendation. The creativity and diversity in the world of post-punk is remarkable.

You can't just mention Husker Du and not bring up The Replacements!

Re: Why punk keeps connecting people across space and time

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Noisey (VICE) has a nice short (30 minute) documentary about the hardcore music scene from NYC in the 1970s to South Korean today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoEdcBgH2Q

Ha, narrated by Tim Armstrong of Rancid fame -- until recently I hadn't listened to them since I was in middle school. Having lived in the Bay Area in the interim it was interesting to hear all of their references to Berkeley, San Francisco, Richmond, Campbell, etc. Half their songs seem to be about Bart stations.

And if you were living in the Bay Area at the time, you probably found out about all the upcoming shows from The List.

Web-friendly link –> http://www.foopee.com/punk/the-list/

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College for me but I spent a lot of time at the QE2. Awesome place

I HOPE you came back for the Section 8 double night reunion a few years ago! They completely sold out back to back nights at Northern Lights.

Hah, haven't been to Albany for about 10 years. But I definitely remember seeing them a bunch back in the day.

Re: Why punk keeps connecting people across space and time

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I HOPE you came back for the Section 8 double night reunion a few years ago! They completely sold out back to back nights at Northern Lights.

Hah, haven't been to Albany for about 10 years. But I definitely remember seeing them a bunch back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO9wB1sUEUQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeWMC75WgUA

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Yeah, that was the media's name for it. I never heard people call it that until the magazines and tv used the term. That lumped in a bunch of stuff, from Queensryche to Soundgarden to Nirvana to Mudhoney.

As a 90s kid living on the other side of the Atlantic that was my name for it too. The proliferation of the "Seattle Scene" was very much a product of MTV and 90s culture. I guess it's more of a cultural category than a musical one, but then again you could say the same thing about punk! EDIT it actually comes to mind that I've also heard Grunge referred to as "Post Punk"

It's funny because I started hearing about "post punk" in the early 80s. Sonic Youth, fIREHOSE, et al.

Re: Why punk keeps connecting people across space and time

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Any bands from that scene or imprints worth checking out? I remember seeing some upstate bands from Syracuse/Rochester/Buffalo when they'd do east coast tours, but I'm blanking on Albany acts! Was Albany hardcore big on the sxe/vegan thing at that time?

Section 8 is the big one you should know, these were our gods. EVERYONE listened to them growing up. Albums Pain is Truth, and Nine Ways to Say I Love You. The latter is required listening. Here are the two reunion nights recorded! I'm in there somewhere! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO9wB1sUEUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeWMC75WgUA Eh, there were some people with the straight edge stuff, the singer of One K…

Thanks, section 8 is amazing! I somehow missed them entirely from long island.

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I saw Nirvana kind of before they were famous too (first British tour). Am I right in thinking they were kind of unmemorable, or was it just that I had other things on my mind at that gig?

Bleach wasn't a very strong album, imo.

Bleach is my favourite of their albums :)
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