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Any recommendations of cross-cultural punk/metal bands? Taiwanese: 滅火器 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOgNLY8nDxQ http://www.chthonic.tw Mongolian: 九大圣器 Nine Treasures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa7PfYfmoEo 杭盖乐队 Hanggai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf1HKQNuQQ Norwegian: http://www.folk-metal.nl Celtic: https://celticfolkpunk.blogspot.tw
related -- this is an interesting read on sub-cultures and how (in the author's opinion) they are co-opted over time: https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths excerpt: Subcultures were the main creative cultural force from roughly 1975 to 2000, when they stopped working. Why? One reason—among several—is that as soon as subcultures start getting really interesting, they get invaded by muggles, who ruin them. Subc…
It's an interesting piece, but it seems like sorts of things people would say when we actually had subcultures. I often wrack my brain trying to think, what changed... Was it the Internet sucking a lot of the money out of the music industry? Was it the aging out of GenX? Was it the long term structural effects of the GFC, with the shrinking of the middle class and the subsequent capital booms that QE created? Was it…
Looked at a different way, the author is writing a cautionary prediction to anyone who is involved in a sub-culture > be careful who you admit, else death becomes it.
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Old joke. First kid asks, "What's punk?" Second kid kicks over a trash can, points at it, and says, "That's punk." First kid kicks over another trash can and asks, "Is that punk?" Second kid says, "No, that's trendy."
Another old joke: "What's punk? Punk's dead, man."
It just deserves to die
When it becomes another stale cartoon...
-Chickenshit Conformist, DK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KX8OMVXyVo
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Not modern adulthood, but electronic dance culture in the 1990s probably (from my point of view) was possibly close. Of course, I really don't know the early punk scene firsthand, which I heard was way more DIY in say the early 1980s, kind of like what you are talking about, vs when I played in a punk band in the 2000s (this is the impression I get when I talked to some guys who were in relatively known local bands i…
>t's hard to reconcile a late-hours youth culture with responsible 9-5 job culture I'm a founder at a startup trying to address this problem.
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NOFX's El Hefe and Bad Religion's Greg Graffin come to mind, respectively in your sentence.
Good choices. I was thinking of Bad Brains, who started out as a fusion band, and Craig Finn's early stuff, but that probably gets into more post-punk.
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Another old joke: "What's punk? Punk's dead, man."
I grew up with a bunch of crusty punks in the late 90s in the texas panhandle. Punk's not dead, it just smells that way.
"Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." - Frank Zappa, Bebop Tango
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I'm in England at the moment, and for the last several years all the band listings I see at bars are for one of the ten thousand "Tribute to the Mildly Popular Band from the 70s/80s". So if I want the Thin Lizzy experience or the Foreigner/Journey experience or the genuine-in-case-you-missed-it-the-first-time Ratt experience, you can get it six nights out of the week because that's all that's playing at every bar in town.
But there are no bands with stupid names playing their own crappy stuff. Even on a Tuesday night. And that's what I miss.
Almost thirty years ago now, driving around on a hot summer day with a couple of friends. One guy puts a punk mix tape in the player, and the guy with a college music scholarship was aesthetically offended. "Anyone could make this music," he complained. The other guy nodded in agreement and replied, "that's the point."
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>t's hard to reconcile a late-hours youth culture with responsible 9-5 job culture I'm a founder at a startup trying to address this problem.
I'm a father of two and a startup founder. I like Detroit techno, and all relevant events _begin_ at 1 AM. The solution isn't a startup, the solution is techno parties that start at 9 PM.
But then all the old people like us will show up...