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Re: IBM seeks $167M from Groupon in dispute over early internet patents

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Post by iteriteratedone » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 6:48 PM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #23

prklmn wrote: post #20

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What’s your definition of failing? https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/IBM#eyJpbnRlcnZhbCI6IndlZWsi...

My definition of "failing" certainly doesn't include companies that are still profitable, employ hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, have hardware in every Fortune 500 company's datacenter, and is the market leader in some high-growth fields.

The down votes for logic , politics in tech, the saddest thing.

The question goes back to the root. Why do you think IBM is failing ... ive seen this comment in multiple posts and it seems very flimsy and biased. An even more direct question is "fail to do what?" They dont seem to fail to pay their employees which is more than I can say for a majority of startups.

Re: IBM seeks $167M from Groupon in dispute over early internet patents

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Post by Analemma_ » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 6:53 PM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #23

prklmn wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s your definition of failing? https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/IBM#eyJpbnRlcnZhbCI6IndlZWsi...

My definition of "failing" certainly doesn't include companies that are still profitable, employ hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, have hardware in every Fortune 500 company's datacenter, and is the market leader in some high-growth fields.

Which high-growth fields is IBM a market leader in? In both AI and cloud computing, they are considered an also-ran.

Re: IBM seeks $167M from Groupon in dispute over early internet patents

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Post by freehunter » Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 11:09 PM UTC

Analemma_ wrote: post #32

freehunter wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My definition of "failing" certainly doesn't include companies that are still profitable, employ hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, have hardware in every Fortune 500 company's datacenter, and is the market leader in some high-growth fields.

Which high-growth fields is IBM a market leader in? In both AI and cloud computing, they are considered an also-ran.

I work in information security and IBM is the undisputed leader. I’d also hesitate to call them an also-ran in AI, even if they’re not the undisputed leader.

I feel like people on here discount IBM because they don’t have anything to offer consumers or startups, but the corporate world is far bigger and has far deeper pockets.

Re: IBM seeks $167M from Groupon in dispute over early internet patents

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Post by kevinSuttle » Sun, Jul 22, 2018, 3:59 AM UTC

Marsymars wrote: post #29

kevinSuttle wrote: post #11

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This is one of the oldest companies in existence. It is hardly on its last legs. Also, patents are a huge revenue stream at IBM. Always have been. However, that merely makes them the original patent troll. :)

> This is one of the oldest companies in existence One of the oldest tech companies. There are many hundreds of companies that have been around longer than the United States.

And this is worth the distinction, why?