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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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A review where it's not being compared against other laptops but against older macs is only marginally useful. Of course it's going to be faster. The problem with Mac is not that it's slow, it's the lack of innovation.

> "is only marginally useful. " To you. A review can't (and arguably shouldn't) be everything to everyone. For example, for those who are flexible in the operating system they use, it would make more sense to compare with different manufacturer's products; for those who are interested in using macOS, it the review as written makes more sense. The first sentence of the piece is "I’ve been using Mac laptops for a long…

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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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post #481

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> I read that the new releas has improvements and I hope they work There are no improvements related to keys not working, only less clicky. > Combined with the need to have a reliably working machine, I have no choice other than buying a Mac That's funny, I would think that a machine where about 1/4 of the keys don't work properly (or work at all)--which can die and take all your data with it, is not exactly the defi…

> There are no improvements related to keys not working, only less clicky. People say they changed something related to dust and sticky keys. > What am I missing here..? You’re missing that there’s more than just the keyboard. Even with the keyboard broken, the device has a long battery life, good screen and the software works. I can open it and start working - which is extremely important, when you’re at a client to…

OK, now I see why Apple is able to keep selling $2000 laptops that are not good at being laptops.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Strawman - most people are not working in a cafe or park, but an office where you have to plug your laptop into actual things - projectors and so on. And almost all the projectors I use at my work, my customers' work, or the last few conferences I've been at, are HDMI - which is cool because I have an HDMI port right there on the side of my [2014, may-it-last-forever] macbook pro. It's next to the SD card slot where…

Why not keep your dongles at work, then? > which is cool because I have an HDMI port right there on the side of my [2014, may-it-last-forever] macbook pro I would point out that modern non-Apple PCs don't tend to have HDMI ports, either. They either have mini-HDMI ports, or OTG ports. The dongle requirement is nearly-universal for connecting modern devices to projectors, to the point that you may as well just buy a s…

Easy - half the conference venues don't come with dongles, or if they do the AV guy is dealing with a crisis in one of the other 17 conference rooms and won't be able to get to your one within your 20 min slot (this happens A Lot. I do have my own HDMI-VGA though, but the VGAs seem to by dying out thankfully).

SD cards - I've never had an SLR or a high end mirrorless camera (but i haven't bought either for maybe 18 months) that's been able to transfer through itself at anything like the speed of a fast SD card in the slot. Makes a big difference when you want to dump 64GB of pics. As for dust, my favourite camera has been to Syria, the desert southwest of the USA several times, morocco, antarctica on a sailing ship (so being sprayed a lot), and not to mention my local beach. Aswell as just being the camera i throw into my shoulder bag when going out. Unless the photographers in your own office are war photographers or dirt-bike specialists, I've probably given my kit a harder life than they have. I've never had an issue with pushing dust into the SD slot of my camera or laptop. I did however dent the ISO knob on my camera when trying to tether it to my laptop when sailing across drake's passage, and a wave tipped the boat and I instinctively grabbed the macbook and let the camera hit the deck. I learnt my lesson. Fair point on micro SD though, but I have never used them for photography. I would probably be concerned too about fumbling, especially if wearing gloves.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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> Finally adding 32GB gets a big thumbs-up from me Worth noting the 32GB option is only available on the 15" model and costs £2,700+

For a professional, that's a few days of work. Over 5 years, after tax etc etc, it's still a blip for what is effectively one's main tool. An IT pro must invest in three primary tools: chair, monitor, and laptop. A £5K budget to amortize over 5 years is fair game, and in the grand scheme of things (traders etc) is actually very very low. If it's to watch movies and play games, then of course it's insanely pricey; but…

For a professional, that's a few days of work.

Nice stealth brag (:

I'm an intermediate dev in a first world country with a salary that locals would call good. That's over a months work for me.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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The original iPhone was unsubsidized. It required a contract until it was unlocked, but you could only buy it at the full retail price, forfeiting any subsidies.

$500 with a required contract is a subsidised device; it doesn't really matter how you phrase it. AT&T paid for it to be exclusive and the retail price would have been set taking that into account. If it wasn't there'd be no reason for Apple to allow a carrier exclusive with a required contract - the buyer would own the device.

The original iPhone was unsubsidized and it was GSM only, so there wasn't an option to offer it on Sprint and Verizon then. The 4 Gb iPhone was $499 and the 8Gb one was $599. Because Apple was new to phones, they only wanted to deal with one carrier initially.

Back then, you could get a Treo or a Blackberry for less than half as much, as they were subsidized by the carriers.

And because paying that much for a phone at that time impeded sales, Apple discontinued the 4 Gb model and dropped the price of the 8 Gb model to $399 two months after it was released. They also "gave in" to the subsidy model, since that was the standard practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_(1st_generation)#Releas...

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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post #91

It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

It's almost as if Apple aren't even basing their hardware strategy on what developers are complaining about on Hacker News.

It's almost as if Apple aren't even basing their hardware strategy on what developers are complaining about on Hacker News.

Apple's market cap is over $900 billion on it's way to $1 trillion; so apparently the strategy of not reacting to every complaint on the internet about their products, including Hacker News, seems to be working for them.

If Hacker News had a built-in prediction market (a la https://www.predictit.org), I would have made a fortune betting against what developers are complaining about on Hacker News.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Touch Bar kills it. I am a touch typer. I use the escape key constantly. I use the function keys frequently. Like every other touch typer I know, none of us want to look at our fingers to type anything, let alone to look down and navigate around a microscopic touch screen menu that requires you to not only look at your fingers but to move your hands away from the micro-screen to see what you're trying to tap on. I ha…

Rebind escape to Caps Lock, you're fine.

Yes of course the user is the problem.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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post #65

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Why do you think that the Air is discontinued? They're still up for sale on Apple's site. The most recent updates were apparently in 2017.

He said looks t be. There are rumours of a new low cost Mac laptop with different branding. ‘Air’ branding doesn’t make sense for the low end model that’s not actually the thinnest and lightest in the range, which it hasn’t been since the MacBook came out.

I did read that, but I interpreted "looks to be" to mean the present appearance. Obviously the Air will be discontinued at some point, and when that happens it won't come as a surprise to anyone.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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post #91

It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

I think the keyboard hate is severely exaggerated. I actually like the new MacBook keyboard, except for the noise. I type, umm, vigorously, and sometimes I'm actually asked to be quieter when taking notes in meetings. So, 8% quieter is great. Regarding the crumb problem: compressed air fixes this for me. I always have had to blow out my keyboards when the keys get shit in them. It's true the new one needs the air tre…

From my experience, I didn't realise I tapped a 'fake' esc key when using vi, it's in the same position so you naturally tap it easily. I think the only downside is you realise a moment later that what you pressed wasn't exactly right.
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