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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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You can have light without being anorexic thin. The ThinkPad X1 Carbon has a 14" screen and weighs half a pound less than the MacBook Pro, and it has the missing ports.

If there was a Hackintosh guide for them I'd get one in an instant.

I'm not into the Hackintosh thing but there are definitely guides out there for some Thinkpads.

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What do you need adapters and dongles for if your goal is to go out to a cafe or a park and work with the computer? Do you, like, need a 7tb media drive with you at all times or something? Are you constantly plugging it into different monitors? Not like you wouldn’t need adaptors for that unless you exclusively live around DisplayPort screens anyway. Do you carry around a wallet full of DVDs and an external drive for…

Strawman - most people are not working in a cafe or park, but an office where you have to plug your laptop into actual things - projectors and so on. And almost all the projectors I use at my work, my customers' work, or the last few conferences I've been at, are HDMI - which is cool because I have an HDMI port right there on the side of my [2014, may-it-last-forever] macbook pro. It's next to the SD card slot where…

Why not keep your dongles at work, then?

> which is cool because I have an HDMI port right there on the side of my [2014, may-it-last-forever] macbook pro

I would point out that modern non-Apple PCs don't tend to have HDMI ports, either. They either have mini-HDMI ports, or OTG ports. The dongle requirement is nearly-universal for connecting modern devices to projectors, to the point that you may as well just buy a set of dongles for each projector, rather than for each laptop.

> It's next to the SD card slot where I can put in the SD cards from my rather nice digital camera

Is there a reason you can't plug the camera into the computer (using a USB cable) to transfer the photos instead? That's what I see the photographers at my own office doing.

(I asked one just now, and they said: if you're trying to transfer photos outdoors, moving an SD card also has the chance of pushing dust into the SD card slot on the camera. They say they've had SD card slots wear out/break before. And for cameras that take micro-SD, when moving the card they're always a little paranoid they might drop the thing on the floor and lose it. All in all, cables are just easier if it's your own camera and your own computer. SD cards are just for passing off to other people.)

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Apple lost me two years ago. While I was a big macOS fan and developer, I now work under linux. I was very surprised to see how far linux has gotten as a desktop workstation. Including very good apps (darktable, ardour, inkscape and even gimp which had an horrible interface at the time). I still think macOS had a superior UI (I say "had" because I haven't touched a mac since sierra) and that the hardware was beautifu…

My biggest issue with Linux apps when making it my desktop was basic PIM apps. Any suggestions for those? Even better, are there any sources and places to hang out where you get this information for Linux? One of the best things about the Apple ecosystem (which I cannot even find in Windows) are the number of Mac focused publications that discuss and critique the variety of apps available. This has been damaged latel…

If you mean email/calendar/contacts... I use thunderbird. It's not "sexy", but it gets the work done. The good side is that there is nothing I can't do with a bit of coding if I need to adjust some style or behavior.

I also use zim wiki for notes taking.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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They can only make the battery 99WH, and still have it allowed to go on an airplane. The battery is already ~83WH, so sadly, there may not be much to gain there.

That's an interesting piece of information to know, thanks.

While it's technically true, it's worth noting that part of the weight & thickness savings in the 2016+ MBPr was from simply reducing the battery from 99.5 Wh to 76Wh. I strongly dislike this change.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Apple lost me two years ago. While I was a big macOS fan and developer, I now work under linux. I was very surprised to see how far linux has gotten as a desktop workstation. Including very good apps (darktable, ardour, inkscape and even gimp which had an horrible interface at the time). I still think macOS had a superior UI (I say "had" because I haven't touched a mac since sierra) and that the hardware was beautifu…

The exact same thing happened to me. Now I have a big tower PC for serious work (32 cores, 64 Gb RAM, dual 1080) plus a nice laptop (XPS 13), for a combined cost of less than this MBP. While the Linux software ecosystem is not quite as smooth as macOS, I have found it to be quite adequate for my work.

The best thing with linux is packages. I use archlinux, and there are very little softwares I cannot find in official repository or AUR.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Have you tried the WiFi running/debugging? Works pretty well for me.

This is seriously where we're supposed to be for a pro laptop? It shouldn't work "pretty well" when you're using a $2000+ machine. It should work perfectly every single time. This is what built apple into the company it is. "pretty well" wasn't good enough. This sounds like the type of concession I would have made in 2005 on my gentoo laptop. "Yeah, USB doesn't work, but there is a workaround that sends that data ove…

Uhm, no, you're just supposed to spend the $19 on a USB C -> Lightning cable to connect them.

The wifi thing is just convenient for many people. If it's not good enough or "pro enough" for you, there is still a cable that you can use.

I don't really see the problem here. Assuming I buy the base model MacBook Pro and the cheapest iPhone 8, I've just spent $2000 dollars and I don't see how I can justify complaining that I need to spend an extra 1% on a cable to connect them.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

I think you can infer that they're trying to address some of the issues with the keyboard, specifically the dust-breaks-everything bit. There was an ifixit article[0] posted a day or two ago touching on some of those points. The tl;dr there is that the quiet aspect is a result of what looks like a fix for the high failure rate of the keys. They can't admit that it's an issue, likely for legal reasons.

[0]: https://ifixit.org/blog/10279/apple-macbook-keyboard-cover-u...

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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USB dongles are absolutely standard in pro audio. Products made by Steinberg, Avid, and many plug-in shops will not work without a USB dongle. Aside from a few high-end audio interfaces, most music hardware - including licensing dongles - is USB-A. Of course you can buy the inevitable wart-on-a-cable adaptor from Apple. But it's both fragile and ugly, and when you have an iLok with thousands of dollars of software on…

Thanks for saying this. Every producer/Dj I know needs USB-A. It will be decades before that equipment is phased out.

They just need a cable that goes from their device to a USB-C port. That's it. Most of the time, the device in question has a USB B port on it so all they need to do is buy a USB B to USB C cable and they're good to go.

Sure, sometimes they need to plug in a dongle and will need an adapter until USB C dongles become commonplace but that is hardly an issue at all.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Apple lost me two years ago. While I was a big macOS fan and developer, I now work under linux. I was very surprised to see how far linux has gotten as a desktop workstation. Including very good apps (darktable, ardour, inkscape and even gimp which had an horrible interface at the time). I still think macOS had a superior UI (I say "had" because I haven't touched a mac since sierra) and that the hardware was beautifu…

The exact same thing happened to me. Now I have a big tower PC for serious work (32 cores, 64 Gb RAM, dual 1080) plus a nice laptop (XPS 13), for a combined cost of less than this MBP. While the Linux software ecosystem is not quite as smooth as macOS, I have found it to be quite adequate for my work.

How exactly are you calculating that your desktop+laptop is cheaper than the MBP?

64GB of ram apparently sells for around $600 right now, plus $500 for each 1080, plus $700 for a 16 core threadripper (I'm not sure what 32 core processor you're using or if you're using multiple processors, but the next gen threadripper will be 32 and cost about this much), plus $1000 for the base model Dell XPS 13 9370 puts you at a total of $3300 before we even get to the motherboard, case, monitors, keyboard, mouse, power supply, storage, laptop upgrades, etc. This also assumes that you built the desktop yourself while valuing the time you spent researching and building at $0.

Anyways, saying that your setup cost less than a MBP seems pretty ridiculous even if it is technically accurate when you only consider the "max" price of a MacBook pro.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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I have one of these in front of me now (been working on it for a little over a week, should have waited, d'oh!) and the virtual escape doesn't seem that big a deal. Even if my finger isn't quite on virtual key pretty much at all, but is in the middle of where the real escape key would be, it triggers "ESC".

Go ahead and return it. Apple's pretty good about returns/exchanges after new product releases. I think you have 14 days from purchase to make an exchange, so hop on it if you really like the new systems.

Sadly, don't think I can. It's the company's laptop, we put the order in after WWDC assuming it'd be a few months longer before updates, and for various reasons I didn't get to setting this particular one up until recently. We're sadly past the flip date, but honestly I'm pretty happy with it so far.
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