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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by cygned »

Osmium wrote: post #137
blhack wrote: post #91

It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

I love the keyboard, and I code all day. It's actually my favorite keyboard of any I've used with the exception of the current-gen external Apple keyboards. I enjoy the light-touch and low key travel required to type. I find the typing more pleasant and kinder on my hands.

I also really like the new keyboard. It’s definitely the best non-mechanical keyboard I have typed on and I really enjoyed using it. However, like five or six keys are stuck, space and shift work only if I hit them in the center and the 7 key has key chartering worse than a broken Cherry MX.

It’s a pity and I am looking forward to buying a new MacBook with a hopefully more reliable keyboard shortly.

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Post by akhilcacharya »

microtonal wrote: post #377
birken wrote: post #210

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The 13-inch Macbook Pro has 4 USB-C ports

Only the TouchBar version. The MacBook Pro Escape has 2 USB-C ports. https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/

Yup. If it had an equivalent number of IO+Power I wouldn’t mind as much.

Right now I have power, 1 USB, and 2 monitors (1 HDMI, 1 TB2) on my 2015. I can’t do that at all without an extra dock on a non-touchbar.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by [deleted] »

derefr wrote: post #220
manigandham wrote: post #200

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You didn't answer the question. It doesn't need to be so dysfunctionally thin and light to travel between work and home sometimes. Nobody is going to suffer from an extra pound of weight.

In places other than the US, the majority of commuters are supporting the weight of their laptops on their backs (on public transit/walking/cycling), rather than having it sitting beside them (in a car.)

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Post by sigi45 »

nstart wrote: post #304
ebbv wrote: post #295

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Apple has always commanded a premium for their laptops. Yes there’s competing specs out there for less but there always have been. I paid $3k for my Retina MBP in 2012 and it still works great for me today. It was a good buy for me. If the MBPs available don’t seem worthwhile to you, no need to get upset about it, just don’t buy one.

I for one welcome Apple's premium on hardware in general. It seems to make for a company that keeps its business model based on just their hardware. This is off topic so I apologise, but I've become rather disillusioned with how many better priced companies seem to be surreptitiously inserting constant tracking into their software and hardware.

Like what? Where does Lenovo, Samsung, HP, Dell, Microsoft or x other companies track way more with software and hardware than apple?

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Post by sooheon »

ambulancechaser wrote: post #149
Osmium wrote: post #140

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> I'd go further and say that Apple isn't basing their hardware strategy on the needs of any real person. Real person here! I love the USB-C only approach. I love being able to charge from either side of my laptop, and I love having single cable to plug in at my desk for RAID/monitor/ethernet/charging/etc. I want my laptop minimal; if I want it to do more, I can add more.

you're extolling the benefits of USB-C not the lack of USB-A. The presence of a USB-A would not affect your listed benefits in the least.

Just like the superfluous presence of HDMI, micro- and mini- and regular SD, CD slots, Ethernet ports won't affect my use of USB-C?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by sooheon »

heimidal wrote: post #306
slavik81 wrote: post #282

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There are a lot of USB devices that do not attach via a cable. You can't just use a different cable in that case, because you were not using one to begin with. VGA devices always connected via a cable, so you weren't adding bulk. Even adapters for devices with integrated cables (grrr...) were pretty minor compared to the sheer heft of the VGA cable itself.

So do we just stick with USB-A forever?

Until the person who happens to be complaining personally upgrades their USB-A peripherals.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by toyg »

Finally adding 32GB gets a big thumbs-up from me, somebody at Apple is finally listening.

I'll have to check the keyboard, however I don't expect any improvement - maybe it'll get stuck a bit less, but I bet travel will still be atrocious.

The MBPr was released in 2012 and redesigned in 2016, so I guess we might expect the next big iteration to come in 2020 or so; then it will take a year or two to work out the bugs, as it always does. This model is clearly the mature version of the 2016 design. It's a good time to buy.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by grzm »

toyg wrote: post #398

Finally adding 32GB gets a big thumbs-up from me, somebody at Apple is finally listening. I'll have to check the keyboard, however I don't expect any improvement - maybe it'll get stuck a bit less, but I bet travel will still be atrocious. The MBPr was released in 2012 and redesigned in 2016, so I guess we might expect the next big iteration to come in 2020 or so; then it will take a year or two to work out the bugs,…

> "Finally adding 32GB gets a big from me, somebody at Apple is finally listening."

More accurately, Intel released chips that supported 32GB of memory with the power and heat requirements Apple wanted.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/28/new-macbook-pros-no-32g...

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Post by yodsanklai »

robocat wrote: post #207
ams6110 wrote: post #145

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Every Mac user I know has had their Mac purchased by their employer. I think that creates a certain price insensitivity. An employer knows that the cost difference between a Mac laptop and something like a Dell or Lenovo is inconsequential compared to the cost of the person using it.

Considering resale value alone I wonder if Mac's make more economic sense?

I believe so. I regularly sell used things. I'm always surprised by the amount of calls I get for my Apple stuff. I'm not sure I'd be able to sell a 3-4 years old Dell as easily.
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