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MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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Post by matwood »

vyper91 wrote: post #563
jetsnoc wrote: post #218

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In the article they cite the MBP as being the most popular notebook for developers so this niche must be important, otherwise why list it?: > Already the most popular notebook for developers around the world, the new MacBook Pro can compile code faster and run multiple virtual machines and test environments easier than before. What we want is a functional keyboard. They are losing this market-share quickly but you're…

Here's the thing - I am big on ergonomics, keyboard and trackpads are always a super high priority for me. At my desk I have a Topre Realforce 88UB 45g keyboard that cost me like £200, a Razer Blackwidow for gaming, and a Microsoft Sculpt to switch it up. I'm fairly big on keyboards, but I do love the new MBP keyboard. I can't remember the old one enough now (I had the 2014 model previously), but I know I spoke of it…

Agree about the keyboard speed. I can fly on the new keyboard (2017). My only complaint is the noise which they seemed to have attempted to address in the 2018.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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Post by RussianCow »

PerfectElement wrote: post #583

I'm hesitant to get this because the touchpad looks huge compared to my 2014 MacBook Pro. I'm looking at where I rest my hands and I think I would be constantly touching on the touchpad while typing. Does anyone have this issue?

I was afraid of this as well, but in practice it has never been an issue for me. Apple did a really good job making it ignore your palms.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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Post by mariopt »

rch wrote: post #375
mariopt wrote: post #360

Finally we've up to data CPUs but now it's even more overpriced. Guess Dell just won a new customer, the XPS line is really good in specs and price. 3.846,71 euros ~= 4500 USD for 4 Tb of SSD storage? Long live Hackintosh, macOs is good but the price isn't just there.

I'm with you but not because of price. It is still under $4K with a 1TB SSD, which is right in line with my other MPBs. I'd expect to spend about the same on the now inevitable Dell.

LOL

3.846,71 euros ~= is ONLY for the 4 Tb SSD.

If I buy the cheapest 15 inch and only upgrade the SSD I have to pay: 6.986,98 € ~= 8.200,00 USD

Prices in Europe are always higher than the states. On time I found out that I would save 100 euros If I took a flight to New York, stayed there for and maximum of 2 days to buy it :D

The prices are just INSANE, I built a Hackintosh for 800 euros and it is faster than the latest iMac 2017 with the maximum specs. Damn, I'm even using an Haswell CPU (i7 4790k) not the latest ones.

I get that Apple is making it's own hardware and it's good enough to rival top brands, example: Apple SSDs are in line with Samsung 970 Pro M.2 in terms of performance. Also the industrial design is second to none but it's just a terrible investment even for programmers.

With iPhone 8: same story, if you drop it and you're unlucky to break the screen and the back plate: It is cheaper to buy a new iPhone :D

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Post by EpicEng »

cjsawyer wrote: post #576
enjeyw wrote: post #407

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I take advantage of Apple's no questions asked return policy for stuff like this: Take my laptop in to be repaired, buy a brand new MBP at the same time. Load everything onto the new laptop using a time machine backup (takes about 2 hours), and use that while they're repairing my laptop. When my laptop is fixed, I pick it up and return the one I bought at the same time for a full refund. It's a bit of fuss making sur…

Not everyone has thousands of dollars sitting around to “rent” new apple hardware. Fine, if that’s your solution. I’ll stick to buying hardware that works.

>Not everyone has thousands of dollars sitting around to “rent” new apple hardware.

I imagine the vast majority of people using MBPs also have a credit card. I think you're imagining a problem here.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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Post by issa »

I own a touchbar MPB and the last model without one. I use both and I wish I could fuse the best elements of the two together. I would GLADLY trade a smaller touchpad for an extra row of keys on the keyboard. The touchbar would be a fine addition if it didn't replace the function keys. My biggest complaint by far is not having hardcoded volume buttons and an escape key.

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Post by threeseed »

mullingitover wrote: post #577
bunderbunder wrote: post #173

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> The niche developer/macrumors posters will never be happy regardless of what Apple does. Haven't done a survey, but quite a few folks I know who work at Mac shops report that their employers have been steering clear of the new MacBooks and just trying to keep the older models they already have alive, while also looking seriously into the feasibility of switching to PCs running Linux if they don't get their act toge…

> a few folks I know who work at Mac shops report that their employers have been steering clear of the new MacBooks My office is a great example of this. Hundreds of developers here, and I've seen exactly one of the touchbar MBPs in the office. The CIO hates them with a passion, and nobody's demanding them, so it's 2014/2015 MBPs for everyone. There are a lot of Airs, too, but I've seen zero Macbooks.

My office has hundreds of developers as well.

We have about 20% of people with 2017 MacBook Pros, including, myself.

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Post by dj-wonk »

baseten wrote: post #413
lcnmrn wrote: post #190

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They have to recover the money spent on TouchBar R&D. We won’t see a proper MacBook Pro until 2020.

It seems to me the touchbar was just a clever way to get their own processor into their laptops for some large scale real-world testing before they ditch intel and build the entire thing themselves. 2020 is a good guess I'd say.

Sure, there are downsides to the touchbar (I get it), but I'd suggest we ask this question: where does Apple want to go with the touchbar? Instead of focusing on where it is right now, think about what it could be.

With haptic feedback and perhaps different locations/placement, it has the potential to augment or even transform the ways we interact with the computer.

Put another way, the current problems are not insurmountable. Changing habits is not easy. What if there are better options than current keyboards? All I'm saying is consider what might be in the works.

To be clear, I'm not saying that we should blindly accept anything Apple does. But we should not blindly assume that their decisions are based on the worst intentions, either.

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