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Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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The phrase "the harvest" is used at least two times in this piece in a similar way:

But it didn’t take long for CEOs to divine the wisdom of a viewpoint that hit them where they lived, in their wallets. The harvest has been decades of increasing income and wealth inequality.

I find it to be very odd, the author is Pulitzer winner, so there's that I guess.

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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When accessing from The UK: Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

That's a really weak commitment, considering that they had 2 years to comply with GDPR.

Maybe they don't care about European readers. I'm European but they are from Los Angeles so I don't complain. Would I comply with a US law if all my customers were in the EU?

To be fair, they're probably blocking also US readers occasionally or permanently in Europe. They could be annoyed by that.

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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And if you think it's bad, it's even worse in Europe. Taking the French example: I'm an freelancer, but I used to have a contract with an American company. They gave me 3x the salary most of my French colleagues would get, while keeping the exact same social advantages (they paid me through a French branch). However, to them, the salary was twice lower than what they would have paid for the same guy in the Valley. No…

Can you read this article? I'm in Europe and run into a message saying "Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism." with the LA time…

I have the same message in Sweden, shame they can't find to operate business without abusing user data.

Still there's an archive.is link listed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17506215

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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"That money won’t disappear, of course—it will go into the pockets of workers, and then find its way back into the coffers of corporate America via higher sales." Do people really go out and spend money immediately if they get raises? Personally, if I get a raise, I may treat myself to something nice, but then I immediately go back to my old spending habits so I have more money to save.

so I have more money to save.

Unless you are saving in the mattress, the money is still in the economy

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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post #7

When accessing from The UK: Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

You might want to indicate that this is a quote from the web site, not a statement of yours. I'd suggest to edit it and to add asterisks around the text to make it render in italics.

Thanks for the advice!

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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And if you think it's bad, it's even worse in Europe. Taking the French example: I'm an freelancer, but I used to have a contract with an American company. They gave me 3x the salary most of my French colleagues would get, while keeping the exact same social advantages (they paid me through a French branch). However, to them, the salary was twice lower than what they would have paid for the same guy in the Valley. No…

Can you read this article? I'm in Europe and run into a message saying "Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism." with the LA time…

I use a vpn, but you can use a simple proxy.

E.x: https://us.hidester.com/proxy.php?u=eJwBWACn%2F3M6ODA6IoYNRJ...

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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It’s interesting how much momentum there is in these processes. After several decades of big wage gains, during the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s, the nominal increases could not be stopped, even as the economy weakened in the 1970s and 1980s. Back then all the wage cuts had to done through inflation. Nowadays there is no inflation, and no momentum to restart wage increases. This part of the article says it right: “””The u…

Well, yeah. This is fully intended. It keeps the proletariat in tatters. With threats to food and lodging, they won't protest and won't rise up. It's a very effective means of control.

Bread and circuses, people.

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

#28

And if you think it's bad, it's even worse in Europe. Taking the French example: I'm an freelancer, but I used to have a contract with an American company. They gave me 3x the salary most of my French colleagues would get, while keeping the exact same social advantages (they paid me through a French branch). However, to them, the salary was twice lower than what they would have paid for the same guy in the Valley. No…

Can you read this article? I'm in Europe and run into a message saying "Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism." with the LA time…

He might be using a VPN, I get the same message from the UK.

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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When accessing from The UK: Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

Click web at the top of this page, ask your browser to show the desktop version if on mobile, show the cached version of the page.

Was trying to look at it on the desktop...

Re: Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

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And if you think it's bad, it's even worse in Europe. Taking the French example: I'm an freelancer, but I used to have a contract with an American company. They gave me 3x the salary most of my French colleagues would get, while keeping the exact same social advantages (they paid me through a French branch). However, to them, the salary was twice lower than what they would have paid for the same guy in the Valley. No…

Exactly this.

All tech companies in Finland are like "We can't find enough competent coders!" and newspapers are publishing that as is.

Well, no shit, because your pay is shit.

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