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(2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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>The campaign to exterminate any alternative political discourse in the West has been so successful that it's now very hard to even talk about any alternative I’ve seen no evidence of that and with the severity of your claim should you should include a source or two. Perhaps you’re confusing people disagreeing with your view with people attempting to silence you. Those are two very different things. Recall the Occupy…

Yes I guess a literal neo-nazi terrorist attack didn't happen on American soil. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally Oh wait it did. And so have numerous ongoing campaigns of harassment and death threats against any dissenting voices. Like this guy: https://www.12news.com/mobile/article/news/local/valley/phoe... Even advocated for by the current President of the United States: https://newrepublic.com…

The people/events you mention are in the extreme minority, and are unhinged private citizens. The government and law enforcement of the US is extremely liberal in its tolerance of dissent and protest, as is the American way.

Let's also not forget that there are unhinged people on both sides of the political spectrum.

Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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I wrote something like this last year https://www.ryanmercer.com/ryansthoughts/2017/2/13/i-miss-th... I miss the face to face interactions, I miss community, I miss boredom and a considerably simpler life. At the same time though I love that I have friends all over the world, many of which I've never met, but know just as well as local friends. I love that I can go on YouTube and see all sorts of amazing and interest…

I totally agree. Rather than choosing, I'd like to start embracing both in their own spaces. A retreat to slow down and get in touch with nature and a home office to get out, get productive and use tech for good.

Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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I think his heart is in the right place, but the execution is over-reactive. Here are my ideas that I want to implement for myself: 1. Move back to dumb phones, landlines, or a wifi phone. 2. Limit movie/video consumption to a fixed time limit per day. For example, 1 hour a day. 3. Re-use old technology/re-cycle technology waste before buying new. 4. Move back to bare metal servers, and self-host. 5. Use simpler tech…

> I think his heart is in the right place, but the execution is over-reactive. I feel similarly. Over the past year or so I've had a set of changes in personal lifestyle and philosophy. I've become very anti-possessions and very anti-technology. At first, getting rid of all social media, cell-phones, TVs, and such. Being a software engineer, I have to have a computer, and I kept my old iPod Touch, stuck on iOS 6, for…

I appreciate the Amish Hackers reference, thank you.

Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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I think his heart is in the right place, but the execution is over-reactive. Here are my ideas that I want to implement for myself: 1. Move back to dumb phones, landlines, or a wifi phone. 2. Limit movie/video consumption to a fixed time limit per day. For example, 1 hour a day. 3. Re-use old technology/re-cycle technology waste before buying new. 4. Move back to bare metal servers, and self-host. 5. Use simpler tech…

Bare metal self-hosting is cost-ineffective and over-complicated, and will never happen at any non-trivial scale. Even among the competent people, most of us simply have better things to do after work. We need something like an app store for self-hosted apps, on top of a mesh/P2P network with built-in load balancing, redundancy, and sandboxing; ideally with a distributed data-store. Installing and running Wekan shoul…

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Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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Such comments get flagged because they don't make a substantive point (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ). You could add substance by, for instance, talking about some steps that could be taken to improve things.

Funnily enough, the thread got flagged now.

But just to verify: Asserting a bad state of affairs and pointing out possible sources of error (ie ideology) does not merit a comment? Do I always need to somehow provide a solution? This seems reductionist to me.

A way of life, a way of thinking is not an engineering problem. Trying to find a common language to tackle difficult societal problems is the first step in my view. That’s why I keep throwing in my point of view even though HN does really not like thinking about ideology inherent to disruptive™️ entrepreneurship™️ economics of 2018.

Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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I wrote something like this last year https://www.ryanmercer.com/ryansthoughts/2017/2/13/i-miss-th... I miss the face to face interactions, I miss community, I miss boredom and a considerably simpler life. At the same time though I love that I have friends all over the world, many of which I've never met, but know just as well as local friends. I love that I can go on YouTube and see all sorts of amazing and interest…

Modern society is worse given your value structure because your value structure is a product of, and therefore tailored for, an "older" society. Yes, there are other people who feel the same way: people who were instilled with the same value structure by the same society you grew up in. No, I don't think there is anything necessarily fundamental here that will apply to future generations.

Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The campaign to exterminate any alternative political discourse in the West has been so successful that it's now very hard to even talk about any alternative I’ve seen no evidence of that and with the severity of your claim should you should include a source or two. Perhaps you’re confusing people disagreeing with your view with people attempting to silence you. Those are two very different things. Recall the Occupy…

>Perhaps you’re confusing people disagreeing with your view with people attempting to silence you. Those are two very different things. Actually, if they're talking to random people around them, those people probably are trying to silence them. It's just about impossible to have rational discourse about politics with a random group of people these days. Far too many of them don't understand how to have a rational con…

I agree with just about everything you’ve said, I just don’t think capitalism is one of those topics.

“They believe it is, and you can't get them to think about it.”

Not getting someone to think about a topic is a far, far cry from not being able to utter such words for fear of violence against you.

Re: (2016) Technology destroys people and places. I’m rejecting it

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>Technology destroys people. We’re already cyborgs (pacemakers, hearing aids) of a sort, and are well on our way to the type of Big Brother dystopia of the techno-utopians This one cuts quite close to the bone and I find this comment quite shortsighted and in poor taste. My mother's life was saved by some extremely swift handling by medical professionals and (here it comes) technology. Where I'm from, if someone has…

>Where I'm from, if someone has a heart attack everyone in the vicinity who is trained gets a text message with the location and/or situation.

Can you elaborate on the technical side of detection of the heart attack and the alerts? Also where do you live?

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