Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

Post by GavinMcG » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:22 PM UTC

chrisper wrote: post #263

_sbxe wrote: post #245

I feel like we all really needed this story. For once, there's nothing political or divisive. There's no one to be mad at. It's not "us or them". The world's top experts came together, volunteered for a dangerous mission, sacrificed, and pulled it off. Ra! Ra! Humanity! Feels like a brief moment of redemption.

>There's no one to be mad at. Except at the soccer coach who thought it was a good idea to endanger 12 children by going into a cave during monsoon season which also led to the death of an innocent person?

Post by addicted » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:22 PM UTC

nxc18 wrote: post #262

abandonliberty wrote: post #255

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Yet who shows up for the 3.1 million children who die of malnutrition every year? Every 3 minutes we lose more children then were in the cave. We can comprehend 13 people and the struggle against nature, while the scope of world hunger is far too complex and emotionally incomprehensible to mobilize enough people.

I keep coming back to this. How many lives could have been saved it improved with the expense we put into saving 12 people who went caving in monsoon season? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad society found a way to save them, I just wish we took the every day threats to human life more seriously.

Post by dilap » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:24 PM UTC

abandonliberty wrote: post #255

bdz wrote: post #213

"If a man gets lost in the mountains, hundreds will search and often two or three searchers are killed. But the next time somebody gets lost, just as many volunteers turn out. Poor arithmetic, but very human. It runs through all our folklore, all human religions, all our literature—a racial conviction that when one human needs rescue, others should not count the price. Weakness? It might be the unique strength that w…

Yet who shows up for the 3.1 million children who die of malnutrition every year? Every 3 minutes we lose more children then were in the cave. We can comprehend 13 people and the struggle against nature, while the scope of world hunger is far too complex and emotionally incomprehensible to mobilize enough people.

Post by JumpCrisscross » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:24 PM UTC

csomar wrote: post #289

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #266

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> We can comprehend 13 people and the struggle against nature, while the scope of world hunger is far too complex and emotionally incomprehensible to mobilize enough people These are different disasters. The cave impacted 13 random children. Hunger impacts millions of poor children. One is random, the other more predictable. There are utilitarian arguments for numbing oneself to tragedy which predictably strikes thos…

Define random. The million of poor children are randomly selected too.

Post by Jwarder » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:26 PM UTC

_ylmx wrote: post #281

chx wrote: post #278

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Is 3000 a low enough number? There are 3000 children in concentration camps in the USA separated from their parents. Edit: yes, I have chosen the words concentration camps to evoke the sceptre of the Holocaust. Also note my grandmother is still alive and an Auschwitz survivor. We. have. seen. this. before! 1. Classification 2. Symbolization 3. Discrimination 4. Dehumanization 5. Organization 6. Polarization 7. Prepar…

> concentration camps This does nothing, but underplay the significance of the holocaust.