Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

Post by _ylmx » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:17 PM UTC

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Yet who shows up for the 3.1 million children who die of malnutrition every year? Every 3 minutes we lose more children then were in the cave. We can comprehend 13 people and the struggle against nature, while the scope of world hunger is far too complex and emotionally incomprehensible to mobilize enough people.

Is 3000 a low enough number? There are 3000 children in concentration camps in the USA separated from their parents. Edit: yes, I have chosen the words concentration camps to evoke the sceptre of the Holocaust. Also note my grandmother is still alive and an Auschwitz survivor. We. have. seen. this. before! 1. Classification 2. Symbolization 3. Discrimination 4. Dehumanization 5. Organization 6. Polarization 7. Prepar…

Post by rusk » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:18 PM UTC

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I thought the sentiment was fine, in particular sending engineers given that his latest subterranean endeavours. On the one hand there's a whiff of publicity off it, but the initiative is to be commended. I wouldn't go talking up the part he played beyond that though.

One of the things about these kinds of emergency situations is that the major media attention can cause harm by making people be too helpful. In most emergency situations, there's already a surplus of unskilled people on the scene who can help; the lack is in people with particular skillsets and materiel. Granted, Musk probably is thinking he's providing relevant skills, but the concept has several potentially proble…

Post by blondie9x » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:18 PM UTC

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I strongly disagree about current events. The Merrick Garland wikipedia page was a mess immediately after he was nominated, and I've just checked and the word "unprecedented" appears 7 times, in spite of the fact that it is by-no-means unprecedented for the senate to not consider a nomination [1]. There are a lot of partisan editors that wish to astroturf for their own political convictions, and because Wikipedia art…

Post by the_spacebyte » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:18 PM UTC

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Here https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1015105500105412610 Yes it was not an official call for help, but someone asked. He even acknowledged that experts were already on the field, and his first reaction was to just send goods there before advancing with engineering ideas. Following your idea why were there so many civilian divers? Why not let the Thai military do the job? That's just PR. Those attention-seeking ba…

> yes that's the thing you're just a neckbeard who cares shit about others and feels smug about pointing fingers on the internet Not a hint of irony, huh? There it is, the crazy Musk fans going full out ad-hominem, just like they did on the BI journalist. Careful OP, these people are nuts.

Post by csomar » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 3:20 PM UTC

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Yet who shows up for the 3.1 million children who die of malnutrition every year? Every 3 minutes we lose more children then were in the cave. We can comprehend 13 people and the struggle against nature, while the scope of world hunger is far too complex and emotionally incomprehensible to mobilize enough people.

> We can comprehend 13 people and the struggle against nature, while the scope of world hunger is far too complex and emotionally incomprehensible to mobilize enough people These are different disasters. The cave impacted 13 random children. Hunger impacts millions of poor children. One is random, the other more predictable. There are utilitarian arguments for numbing oneself to tragedy which predictably strikes thos…