I wonder if it'd be possible to use some of the momentum and talent from this to mount a rescue attempt to save the children trapped in cages in the United States.
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Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued
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#162Thankfully Lord Musk was there to help. Unlike Saman Gunan. In all honesty, please remember and keep repeating Saman Gunan's name. He gave his life for these kids. Musk reused a part of his rocket that his company didn't even build, in a situation where it would never work. It was so obviously a PR stunt it's disgusting. He even personally showed up to the cave site as if he was ever going to actually contribute some…
You don't need to bring Twitter's relentless schoolyard bashing here. The escape tube was a misfire - nobody used it, and it was too late, and Musk promoted it way too much on Twitter - but would you have preferred Musk ignore the people who messaged him to help out?
You point out two people. Both sacrificed things selflessly - for Kunan, it was his life. For Musk, it was a little money and a few hours. You do not need to negate one sacrifice in order to celebrate the other.
Your sarcastic attitude is incredibly unpleasant, and I would personally never hire or contract someone that converses in the manner you have. It obviously gave you a dopamine rush to write that little diatribe, but good luck turning that temporary feeling into genuine goodwill or income.
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#163I wonder if it'd be possible to use some of the momentum and talent from this to mount a rescue attempt to save the children trapped in cages in the United States.
you are being somewhat flippant, but you are getting at something I often wonder about. why is it considered reasonable to spend so much money (and a life) to occasionally rescue a small number of people in a weird predicament? Elon musk was ready to drop about a million dollars on this problem; similarly, I often read about the US Navy retasking entire warships to respond to small maritime emergencies at an hourly cost I can't fathom.
is it callous to ask whether there isn't a more efficient (from the perspective of actually helping a significant number of people) way to allocate these resources? there are a lot of lives that could be changed for way less.
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#164I wonder if it'd be possible to use some of the momentum and talent from this to mount a rescue attempt to save the children trapped in cages in the United States.
Honest question: what are you talking about?
Trump. Immigrants' children.
I'm not from US and never been to US either. But many of these stories are heart-breaking.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of the money and equipment were donated.
While it may be true, not really the point GP was getting after. Cost or donation, can we expect the same for every child in need?
Can we expect 1 person to sacrifice their life for every 13 children in need?
Helping every child in poverty requires a long term paced effort rather than a one time heroic one. As inspiring as this rescue was, it doesn't scale.
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#166I wonder if it'd be possible to use some of the momentum and talent from this to mount a rescue attempt to save the children trapped in cages in the United States.
Honest question: what are you talking about?
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#167Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued
#168You really have to love Wikipedia. It's barely a week old and you already have a page with so many references and detailed information. Thank you, all the anonymous contributors.
Wikipedia is the best website for following: 1. Current events. 2. Sports tournaments. The information entropy level is quite high, with basically no ads, extremely good formatting (relevant tables, charts etc.), and relatively unbiased. This doesn't even mention the benefit of getting simple background information on the subjects with just a simple click (or even a hover these days) It's really a treasure.
I find it even good for medical conditions, condensed history of major events, understanding geography and biography of actors, sportspersons and politicians.
Actually, isn't it the * best * first website to learn about anything?
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'm awaiting for the unavoidable book/movie. Hollywood producers are already on the ground http://www.newsweek.com/hollywood-producers-head-thai-cave-r...
It'll probably take place somewhere in the US and white wash it with white actors. Maybe they'll make one of the kids (a girl) Asian to give a little nod to the original story.
and that girl will be helping hand - because when she grows up, she wants to be a doctor
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#170Why wasn't the death of Saman Gunan more widely publicized? I barely heard about it - in the NYT article on this it's a single sentence 2/3rds of the way through the article. I'd have thought that the concept of someone sacrificing themselves for the recovery of 12 children would have been a major story. The Guardian's liveblog (or whatever this is) doesn't mention it in the first couple pages, nor do the responses o…
One reason not to focus too much on his death might be because it seems to have been more "random mistake" than "heroic sacrifice"? The children had already been located, the system for supplying and evacuating them had already been arranged, and everyone who entered the cave had all the supplies and equipment they needed to perform their tasks. Running out of air while diving is a mistake that any amateur diver with…
From the coverage, he was placing additional air bottles along the route.
I can see how, being reminded of the logistic time cost of every bottle, he might have pushed and run too close for his return. And that's not even broaching equipment malfunctions.
Things happen. Maybe it was a mistake and maybe it was bad luck. But the man's a hero for returning from retirement to play a critical role in saving 13 people.