Earlier quoted context omitted.
Calling for protests of a far-right conservative party's convention in Bavaria apparently is now "probably illegal" and justifies this kind of action?
Not just protests, violent protests. While I think the police’ action was overblown, I have little sympathy for violent politic groups (if it turns out to be correct).
Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
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Re: Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
The police aren’t THAT dumb. They were likely given marching orders to provide plausible deniability and seize as much or hardware as possible with the belief that they can find something after the fact that justifies their actions in public opinion.
You've re-written another comment so that it follows all standard rules for spelling. But to what end? Certainly not to make it intelligible, as the original comment was intelligible regardless of spelling errors. If not to make it intelligible, then perhaps to engage in one-up-man-ship? But since feeding the ego tends to be a zero sum game, at what cost? Perhaps the original poster has one of a whole host of conditi…
Re: Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it quite unlikely that police will come to your home and drop 26 thousand bombs. Just based on my own personal experience, tho.
That is correct. They would probably use a single bomb. [1] [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=police+bombed+a+black+neighb...
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
to be more precise, police identified it as "presumed model of an atomic bomb". But the criminal offence is spot on: http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-1310464-860_poster_16x9-...
TBH this looks more like a butt plug than a nuke...
Re: Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did not downvote any of your posts. All I did was to ask questions to your claims. And who did CCC say is a Nazi just for sharing non-radical ideas with conservative parties?
Calling every conservative or even people who share some conservative ideas Nazis is an entry requirement for the Antifa. The talks I mentioned, which you'll easily find on Google, are painting the same picture. Don't bother replying. I'll repost this, because I want the CCC's political affliction to be more visible. It's important to understand the context of their post.
I'm really surprised that many people seem to not know the CCC is explicitly politically aligned.
Also, at least in Europe, many of the hacklabs/hackerspaces from the 80s and 90s used to be politically aligned. The less aligned hackerspaces we see today are a recent phenomenon.
Re: Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
TBH this looks more like a butt plug than a nuke...
Yeah, good luck explaining that to the German police. They also found PCBs and other "bomb making material". When you're trained to see bomb threats, everything will look like a potential bomb threat.
Und vier Monate später stand in Springer's heißem Blatt
Dass Georg-von-Rauch-Haus hat eine Bombenwerkstatt
Und die deutlichen Beweise sind zehn leere Flaschen Wein
Und zehn leere Flaschen können schnell, zehn Mollies sein
-- Ton Steine Scherben, "Rauch-Haus-Song" (1972)off-hand translation:
and four months later the BILD-Zeitung declares
the Georg-von-Rauch house has a bomb making workshop
and the clear evidence is ten empty bottles of wine
because ten empty bottles can easily become ten molotov cocktails
> When you're trained to see bomb threats, everything will look like a potential bomb threat.This has to do with obedience, as do the rationalizations. The same obedience will allow people to ignore smoking guns with powerful people.
Re: Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> If for example I happen to stand in front of my window and witness a crime being committed in the street, That is probably not an instance, where a search warrant would be reasonable. But if for example you denounce someone for embezzlement, and during the investigation it comes to light that you have profited from this act of embezzlement yourself, a search warrant would be given (against you) despite of you beei…
Given that searching somebody's house is a serious invasion of privacy, there should a very good reason why this search is required. I.e., if somebody is a witness only very loosely connected to a case, then it is better just ask that person to provide the required testimony. So a judge who makes mistakes like this, should be kicked out. Of course, that will never happen. I'm not sure if there is even a reasonable pr…
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
You've re-written another comment so that it follows all standard rules for spelling. But to what end? Certainly not to make it intelligible, as the original comment was intelligible regardless of spelling errors. If not to make it intelligible, then perhaps to engage in one-up-man-ship? But since feeding the ego tends to be a zero sum game, at what cost? Perhaps the original poster has one of a whole host of conditi…
Ironically, they didn't fix the only typo that made it hard to parse the original sentence: or → of
Re: Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
TBH this looks more like a butt plug than a nuke...
Yeah, good luck explaining that to the German police. They also found PCBs and other "bomb making material". When you're trained to see bomb threats, everything will look like a potential bomb threat.
Re: Police search homes of Zwiebelfreunde board members and OpenLab in Augsburg
#120A bit of perspective for non-Germans: The raid was ordered from Bavaria, a state in Germany which is traditionally governed by the conservative CSU party, which is currently also in the (international) headlines for the ongoing immigration fight, since they are part of the federal government with Merkel (they are taking a very though standpoint on immigration). Just recently this party introduced a new police law in…
I understand some of the searches took place outside of Bavaria, though (Berlin, etc.)? How does the German legal system work in this case, does police in other German states automatically cooperate with requests from Bavaria even when there's potentially a discrepancy between the laws used to provide the legal justification for the actions in question? I've seen a general sentiment in HN and other tech circles over…
About the more technical legal question: I think – as some other commenter pointed out – the legal basis for the search should be the same. The searches themselves should be governed by the respective police law – in other states the police would be a little more restricted in how to handle the searches.