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I'm sure the prostitutes knew what they were signing up for.
Like they have a choice? Did you see the part where it's basically impossible for women to succeed in business as any average man would because of this system?
Booze, Sex, and the Dark Art of Dealmaking in China (2015)
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure the prostitutes knew what they were signing up for.
> I'm sure the prostitutes knew what they were signing up for. What about the ones who were forced into it?
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> Even at company parties at big corporations, some Sales and Marketing folks tend go a bit overboard - and employees hooking up with each isn't unusual during such festivities either. Heh, you should see company parties in northern Europe.
I think that's largely a myth or at least an exaggeration. I've worked in both Norway and Sweden (and currently live in Sweden) and I've never seen an office party get even close to going way overboard. Office parties in the US and the UK I've seen have been 'worse'.
It's extremely easy to hook up. There's like a mentality that "since you work here" you're already pre-screened :)
Summer parties at the office often devolve into something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIf1fydxrfo
Global gatherings are, indeed, very crazy.
Maybe it's something like this: "If you can't be corrupt anymore, at least you can be sexually corrupt!"
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Actually, cheating involves lying. A spouse is explicitly or at least implicitly expecting the other part no to lie about extra relations. If lying about those extra relations in this context doesn't makes you a bad person, then I don't know what is.
Logical fallacy. Doing one bad thing does not make one a "bad person" if such a thing even exists. If the alternative is to break up a family so the cheater can be 'honest' with him-/herself, is a lie and a happy family worse than a broken family? Stop seeing things black and white.
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It's always easy to tell someone they have it good when we all live on a power law. Just tell them to look a notch down and see someone half their height, just as long as they don't look up at you and see your waist. The entire structure of the American economy and the attitudes it uses to keep its subjects in check are of this form. In many ways, the US is advanced but in many ways it also lags other places, namely…
A premise that there's less racism in Europe than in the US is just wrong (I'm a European who've spent a lot of time in the US for work and school). US is the PC capital of the world (for better or worse). There's just not a whole lot of non-white folks in Europe even now.
Of course, the U.S. has other issues (an increasingly violent police force as well as income inequality) which makes the effects that stem from racial discrimination worse than they would elsewhere, although that's just my take.
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Nobody is coercing you to go, but people will gladly claim that if you are poorer as a result then it is surely because you was lazy or less talented then those who went. And they will celebrate those who went and virtuous and if you dare to point out dark side, you are lazy and jealous. I used to believe that people dont have right to try to change rules of the game, but not anymore. Rules are tilted towards those w…
> Nobody is coercing you to go, but people will gladly claim that if you are poorer as a result then it is surely because you was lazy or less talented then those who went. And they will celebrate those who went and virtuous and if you dare to point out dark side, you are lazy and jealous. Again, you make your own choices. If it is more important what people 'claim' about you, instead of how you feel about urself the…
In effect, it is a way how the system based on strip clubs defends itself from being exchanged for one that depends more on skills, abilities and work.
And absolutely, one reason people who can't get in due to own values (you will be shock to hear it exists) or social pressure from church is that they don't get to get business. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that motivation. That is how the world works, people tend to be interested in issues that affect them.
The idea that you have to be totally selfles in all motivations and circumstances to have right to have and push for values you consider important is wrong. Caring about social status or money does not make you hypocritical nor oblige you to be silent on what you disagree with. Most humans care about something like that to at least some extend. That is just another idea designed to silence opposition.
I also think it is ok to claim high moral ground when you lost, assuming you had high moral ground. It is totaly fine and even freespeech right to talk about experience, complain and generally not give up.
Re: Booze, Sex, and the Dark Art of Dealmaking in China (2015)
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
A premise that there's less racism in Europe than in the US is just wrong (I'm a European who've spent a lot of time in the US for work and school). US is the PC capital of the world (for better or worse). There's just not a whole lot of non-white folks in Europe even now.
I guess you haven't been to UK or France recently ;) Being PC doesn't mean not being racist. They will keep their thoughts to themselves and will not let you know directly. But behind your back, oh boy...
Re: Booze, Sex, and the Dark Art of Dealmaking in China (2015)
#158I speculate that sex as social norming behavior is something many in the west are far-removed from. The heavy drinking is still present -- alcohol seems to lubricate anything -- but the pressure for sexual activities isn't anywhere near as strong here as it is in other places.
We commonly think of sex as romantic, even a quick fun-filled romp. We don't think of it very often as being a group social sorting event. Fascinating. Thanks for the link!
Re: Booze, Sex, and the Dark Art of Dealmaking in China (2015)
#159It seems that while no less false, Asia is much safer place.
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We’re also wired for murdering, raping and pillaging. That’s not gonna stop me from judging people who succumb to their desires at the expense of other people
What expense does a person suffer if they are being cheated on? Some forms of cheating involve financial irresponsibility, but not all. Some forms involve health risks, but not all. So let's not generalize all cheaters as perpetrators of harm to their first partners. Judge all you want, but if it ain't illegal don't shove your values down people's throat.
Having multiple relationships, known to all parties is subjectively wrong and we can argue about it as much as we want.
Agreeing to a monogamistic relationship and secretly breaking that agreement, as implied by your use of the word "cheater", is objectively wrong.