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Why Women Don't Code?

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Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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I tend to agree with everything you say. I'd like to call out this part: I believe women should really get into technology, and become actual tech people instead of many faux-techie types I was surprised to read this, but not totally surprised. I've been wondering when this phenomenon will start to be publicly discussed. I think women faking technical skills to benefit from "women in tech" hype is a really serious pr…

I'm not sure we've demonstrated that men behave any differently? Then this becomes a simple strawman with 'woman' painted on it.

Men absolutely will exaggerate skills to try and win status and profit: I've caught men lying on CVs before.

The difference is that when they get caught they are swiftly dealt with. There is no social pressure to go easy on men in tech. If a man exaggerated his technical skills to the point that he was claiming to be a hacker and open source programmer but couldn't point to any programs or actual contributions of code, he would rightly be laughed at and dropped from a hiring pipeline. If he was busy making such claims to the media, journalists would investigate and expose him.

The incentives not to do this mean that whilst it does happen, I feel it's much rarer. I don't remember the last time I encountered a male journalist making unsubstantiable claims to be an open source contributor.

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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I dont want to be men and women, I want to be persons. I want us to transcend all the categories. We dont work to be happy. We work to earn money. Also, women are not baby factories. Just like we are not sperm dispensers.

> I want us to transcend all the categories. I don't think that's a happy outcome. Identity is important.

Identity could be personal. I think on this matter quite often. It would be off-topic to ponder on this at length here, but I can summarise saying: I think categories and identity are different, and tye former takes away from the latter, instead of adding to it.

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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He argues that the 30% share current top US CS schools are getting is the global maximum. I think he is missing the “Whys” for women in tech and “perceived sense of individual strengths being too good for tech”, is not one of them. Coding is a form of communication. Knowing how to write is essential today and you’re not going to write less about your passions just because you are so much better at swimming. Some of t…

I agree with a lot of your points. But I feel compelled to respond. > Coding is a form of communication Yes, but it's also so much more than this. Not everyone is capable of the mental gymnastics or visualisation required to be a good software engineer, and that's okay. > Because of economic opportunity... While there are a ton of practical reasons to do things in life, if you don't love algorithms and data structure…

True, and the mental gymnastics in Law, Surgery, and a number of other fields are also hard, if not harder, but they still attract =>50% women these days. Maybe we could draw some of these women by showing the broader purpose behind coding as a challenge worthy of a career. Working as a software engineer is an undersell. You could be a founder of a tech company, a researcher in AI tool that finds cancer better than Radiologists.

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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It's also interesting to note that not too long ago, pink was considered a masculine colour.

Would you mind expanding upon that or providing a link? That would be a very interesting read for me!

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-s...
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