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Why Women Don't Code?

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Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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My native tongue (Turkish) is one language without grammatical gender. Learning languages with it, it was immediately clear to me that that was a problematic thing. Luckily no revolutions are needed, as languages tend to become more analytical and lose grammatical gender progressively. I think that what enabled women to gain many rights and at times actual equality in most societies was/is technology. Before widespre…

> women could become part of the workforce too > women's rights and their participation in many other areas. > Since the decades following industrial revolution, they became more and more present steadily in politics, academia, culture, etc., becoming quickly co-protagonists of modern life. Some studies say that as a result they are unhappier and have less children. See: https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/files/…

There's actually a spectrum between, being fairly treated in the workforce and in politics, and 'think and feel exactly the same'

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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My native tongue (Turkish) is one language without grammatical gender. Learning languages with it, it was immediately clear to me that that was a problematic thing. Luckily no revolutions are needed, as languages tend to become more analytical and lose grammatical gender progressively. I think that what enabled women to gain many rights and at times actual equality in most societies was/is technology. Before widespre…

I tend to agree with everything you say. I'd like to call out this part: I believe women should really get into technology, and become actual tech people instead of many faux-techie types I was surprised to read this, but not totally surprised. I've been wondering when this phenomenon will start to be publicly discussed. I think women faking technical skills to benefit from "women in tech" hype is a really serious pr…

I'm not sure we've demonstrated that men behave any differently? Then this becomes a simple strawman with 'woman' painted on it.

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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> women could become part of the workforce too > women's rights and their participation in many other areas. > Since the decades following industrial revolution, they became more and more present steadily in politics, academia, culture, etc., becoming quickly co-protagonists of modern life. Some studies say that as a result they are unhappier and have less children. See: https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/files/…

There's actually a spectrum between, being fairly treated in the workforce and in politics, and 'think and feel exactly the same'

> politics

US almost had a female president. Germany, which is the most powerful country in the EU has a female chancellor. The UK has a female prime minister.

> workforce

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-e...

> There's actually a spectrum

How far down that spectrum do we need to go in your mind?

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There's actually a spectrum between, being fairly treated in the workforce and in politics, and 'think and feel exactly the same'

> politics US almost had a female president. Germany, which is the most powerful country in the EU has a female chancellor. The UK has a female prime minister. > workforce https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-e... > There's actually a spectrum How far down that spectrum do we need to go in your mind?

Good example. When a woman in America can get the same fair shake as a black man, then we've made progress.

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I tend to agree with everything you say. I'd like to call out this part: I believe women should really get into technology, and become actual tech people instead of many faux-techie types I was surprised to read this, but not totally surprised. I've been wondering when this phenomenon will start to be publicly discussed. I think women faking technical skills to benefit from "women in tech" hype is a really serious pr…

I'm not sure we've demonstrated that men behave any differently? Then this becomes a simple strawman with 'woman' painted on it.

Anybody with relevant character flaws can behave this way. It's just that popular approaches for diversity are easily exploitable by such people.

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My native tongue (Turkish) is one language without grammatical gender. Learning languages with it, it was immediately clear to me that that was a problematic thing. Luckily no revolutions are needed, as languages tend to become more analytical and lose grammatical gender progressively. I think that what enabled women to gain many rights and at times actual equality in most societies was/is technology. Before widespre…

> women could become part of the workforce too > women's rights and their participation in many other areas. > Since the decades following industrial revolution, they became more and more present steadily in politics, academia, culture, etc., becoming quickly co-protagonists of modern life. Some studies say that as a result they are unhappier and have less children. See: https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/files/…

I dont want to be men and women, I want to be persons. I want us to transcend all the categories.

We dont work to be happy. We work to earn money. Also, women are not baby factories. Just like we are not sperm dispensers.

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Thanks, I mostly agree you too. This topic is a hard one to discuss, nearly a taboo. A proof might be that this post was flagkilled, luckily when I mailed the mods about it they did unkill it. When I said faux-techies I mostly thought about HTML/CSS programmer types. While I did not know about the types you talk about, it's not very hard to believe, given how the way we execute this whole diversity thing is so open a…

Thank you for contacting the mods. I am entirely unsurprised that the response to my post was to try and suppress it rather than post any replies or arguments against it. The sort of people who support these diversity movements always seem to be the same sort of people who immediately jump for censorship and other communist-style tactics. If the way to figure out who runs society is just to look at who you aren't all…

Oh, actually the story itself was flagkilled, not your comment. I contacted to unkill it. Sorry for the misunderstanding :)

In your second comment you go a bit too far. Yeah feminism has a problem with accepting criticism and with extremisms, and so are many activist types, but that does not invalidate feminism and activism by itself. We need both, but we also need more calm and more reason. And matriarchy is so inexistent that it might be dark matter.

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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> women could become part of the workforce too > women's rights and their participation in many other areas. > Since the decades following industrial revolution, they became more and more present steadily in politics, academia, culture, etc., becoming quickly co-protagonists of modern life. Some studies say that as a result they are unhappier and have less children. See: https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/files/…

I dont want to be men and women, I want to be persons. I want us to transcend all the categories. We dont work to be happy. We work to earn money. Also, women are not baby factories. Just like we are not sperm dispensers.

> I want us to transcend all the categories.

I don't think that's a happy outcome. Identity is important.

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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I tend to agree with everything you say. I'd like to call out this part: I believe women should really get into technology, and become actual tech people instead of many faux-techie types I was surprised to read this, but not totally surprised. I've been wondering when this phenomenon will start to be publicly discussed. I think women faking technical skills to benefit from "women in tech" hype is a really serious pr…

I'm not sure we've demonstrated that men behave any differently? Then this becomes a simple strawman with 'woman' painted on it.

> I'm not sure we've demonstrated that men behave any differently

We don't need to demonstrate it because men can't take advantage of the gender diversity wave, they were talking specifically about untalented women(in tech) taking advantage of diversity programs that are supposed to help talented women. The reason this is important is because it creates the stereotype that the reason women need diversity initiatives is because they are not as good as men are in the field.

Re: Why Women Don't Code?

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> politics US almost had a female president. Germany, which is the most powerful country in the EU has a female chancellor. The UK has a female prime minister. > workforce https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-e... > There's actually a spectrum How far down that spectrum do we need to go in your mind?

Good example. When a woman in America can get the same fair shake as a black man, then we've made progress.

Can you point out everyday situations where this is the case?
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