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Secrets of Resilience: Lessons from adults who overcame difficult childhoods

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Xkcb is always a good distraction, but not. What is interesting is not that there aren't mass murderings in the desert or the sea or that more people are shooted where the bulk of the people lives. This is obvious. The interesting part is that there are a lot of mass murderings in USA and a lot of children and young people killed also. (and those are only the first six months of the year). Was the same trend in 1970…

Are we talking about murder in general or just the tiny fraction of it made up of people snapping and committing semi-random violence? The things that cause of typical murders and the things that cause mass shootings are very, very, very different as are the options for solving those problems. Trying to consider them as related is not productive unless the goal is to create confusion in order to push an agenda that i…

Aren't most murders familly members and friends? That is how I recall it.

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My most upvoted comment on HN was when I made reference to fact that I had grown up in African village. I was totally unaware that this was a something worth sharing but it seemed to pique people's interest. As I didn't know any better at the time, I never felt that I lacked anything. I had two parents, grand parents and many cousins around. We spent the whole time playing, "exploring" and "hunting". Not once did it…

My story is not too different. I grew up in a dirt poor Asian village. We didn't have running water and for first few years of my life, not even a toilet. Parents taking active part in kids education was not common. I remember my parents bought be one toy when I was in second or third grade, and that was it. We used to get one pair of new clothes once every year during festivals. That's about it. Nobody ever celebrat…

Uh, brag! That’s about as brag worthy as one could get. Wow! Please do a blog or something

Re: Secrets of Resilience: Lessons from adults who overcame difficult childhoods

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My most upvoted comment on HN was when I made reference to fact that I had grown up in African village. I was totally unaware that this was a something worth sharing but it seemed to pique people's interest. As I didn't know any better at the time, I never felt that I lacked anything. I had two parents, grand parents and many cousins around. We spent the whole time playing, "exploring" and "hunting". Not once did it…

Astounding achievements. You rock. I would love to hear more.

Re: Secrets of Resilience: Lessons from adults who overcame difficult childhoods

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I had a somewhat difficult childhood and by about 12 was plotting a way to get the fuck out of my neighborhood. Self taught programmer/business guy who did well. Wife is far smarter and better educated but not interested in making money. She came from a good family and reckons my drive came from the background.

Re: Secrets of Resilience: Lessons from adults who overcame difficult childhoods

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This article is disgusting. Really, what a load of harmful garbage. At risk of overreacting or ignoring the experiences of other people who have experienced hardships such as abuse, mental illness, and others, I want to say that the authors of this article fundamentally misunderstand what they are talking about.

I was severely physically and emotionally abused throughout my childhood and have suffered bipolar 2 disorder my whole life. I am only in my early twenties, but I might be lucky enough to be considered one of those who became "successful" after experiencing such hardships as the article fetishizes: I am attending a good college, earning a good degree, developing experience in a high-demand field, and well on my way to becoming materially successful. By all measures, I am doing very well compared to my peers. In this, I think I am in the minority of people who have gone through similar experiences. I think the majority of people who have experienced these things end up either addicted to drugs, developing alcoholism, living with severe depression, or committing suicide or struggling with self-harm. I don't think there is any difference in the personality or resilience of these people and myself which led down paths different than mine. I think it's just luck.

I don't think I am a winner. This kind of trauma, especially trauma in your formative years, changes you whether you want it to or not. In order to survive, I learned very specific behaviors as a child, such as deescalation and avoidance of conflict, lying effectively about what I've done and how I feel, telling people what they want to hear, and pushing down and ignoring my feelings. I think everyone who goes through experiences like this learns skills that help them in the short term. If you are very lucky, I think (at best) you can learn not to automatically revert back to these behaviors as an adult most of the time. The people who can learn let go of those behaviors well enough might be the lucky ones, but I think they are rare. Don't get me wrong here: I don't think my fate is sealed. I know how to work on unlearning deceptive and destructive behaviors. I always do my best to work with what I have (I learned to do that as a kid, too), but realistically speaking, I will probably never have (for example) a trusting relationship with a woman or ever trust myself enough to raise children (I'm irrationally worried that I would abuse them and become just like my parents).

In a strange way, perhaps some things I learned in order to survive helped me after the abuse, but by and large they were terrible for me. When I was a teenager, I made it my one goal in life not to kill myself. Anything else I accomplished was just extra credit. When I fail in a big way, it's not a big deal for me because I've always had low expectations for my life. I think this might help me instantly rebound from failures and rejection, and end up with opportunities less persistent people might have not gotten. I still force myself to go out there and try my best, because the medication that keeps me functional probably won't keep working forever, so the time I have left is probably significantly limited.

Do you think I'm resilient? Do you think I'm one of the winners?

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Why post articles from wsj, it doesn't show the full story.

Click the tiny link below the title on that says 'web' which searches it in google. Then click the link you see in google, this usually lets you read the article (most of the time).

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My story is not too different. I grew up in a dirt poor Asian village. We didn't have running water and for first few years of my life, not even a toilet. Parents taking active part in kids education was not common. I remember my parents bought be one toy when I was in second or third grade, and that was it. We used to get one pair of new clothes once every year during festivals. That's about it. Nobody ever celebrat…

Uh, brag! That’s about as brag worthy as one could get. Wow! Please do a blog or something

Ha! Can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

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I too had a difficult childhood and overcame some moderate difficulties. Then I proceeded to waste my adult youth (20s and most of my 30s) in a multi decade pit of depression and withdrawal from the world. So let's not forget survivorship bias.

I can echo that. Low middle class, alcoholic parent, failed family businesses that I wasted teenage and early 20s in, just rebuilding now.

Tragic.

Re: Secrets of Resilience: Lessons from adults who overcame difficult childhoods

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Uh, brag! That’s about as brag worthy as one could get. Wow! Please do a blog or something

Ha! Can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

It sounded genuinely honest to me and I find being proud of oneself when tough times where endured is pretty healthy.
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