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Amazon employees protest sale of facial recognition tech to law enforcement
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#22Re: Amazon employees protest sale of facial recognition tech to law enforcement
#23How is selling to law enforcement any worse than selling facial recognition tech to companies that are also use it to invade my privacy and use the technology to try and squeeze money out of me? Where do you draw the line on ethical usage? In my mind, if you're concerned about the ethics of facial recognition tech, you shouldn't be working in that field at all. It's fundamentally anti-privacy.
> Where do you draw the line on ethical usage? One can put me in a box. The other one can’t.
One of them is constrained by federal and state constitutions. The other is not.
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#24Amazon built it to recognize staff as they walk in and customers at their physical stores so they wouldn't have to carry a wallet. It's like GPS. Many legitimate civilian uses, but also very useful to use in orchestrating government force.
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> Where do you draw the line on ethical usage? One can put me in a box. The other one can’t.
One of them is constrained by federal and state constitutions. The other is not.
One is constrained by laws and the courts and the cops and civil society. The other has a monopoly on violence.
I’m not saying one side is good and the other is not. But if we’re drawing lines, the side that can punch me is the one I’m more scared of.
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Streamlining the criminal / judicial process would be a plus for me. Use webcam feeds to record filesharer, illegal activites passively. Capture known criminals anywhere because you have a real time facial recognition. Cross reference the evidence, and avoid long drawn out court time.
If anything this will make court time longer - you better believe lawyers are going to challenge every aspect of the face recognition software and it's validity in courtroom identification
Right after we get to see the source code.
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#29If you don't like what Amazon is building, just wait until all those contracts start going to Raytheon and Northrop! I appreciate the moral quandary these engineers are faced with, but there is something to be said for being a responsible steward of technology. I've met quite a few MIT Ph.D.s who nonchalantly mention their roles as, what sounds like to me like "Program manager for raining fire and destruction on thir…
Exactly. I don't understand the rationale behind these kinds of "protests". It's not like the buyer can't go elsewhere to get the tech. To potentially far less scrupulous suppliers at that.
The whole thing seems like virtue signaling.
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#30Amazon is about to effectively receive a sole source DOD contract for 10 billion for "cloud services". They have been supplying AWS to intelligence agencies for years. Why outrage over this and not that?