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The Machine Fired Me

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Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by kbenson »

da_chicken wrote: post #454
bonyt wrote: post #161

This is literally an episode of Better Off Ted.[1] In it, the titular Ted is inadvertenly deleted from the company system when trying to correct a misspelling of his last name. Eventually, he is forced to interview for his own job as the system had already put out an ad for his replacement. I think the most striking part of it, and of the true story from the post, is the human factor - the idea that the humans involv…

> people driving into lakes because their GPS told them to That one has actually happened: http://bgr.com/2016/05/17/car-gps-mapping-directions-lake/ It's a little unfair, though. There was heavy rain, fog, and a second article [0] says it was also in the middle of the night. The photo there also does make it look easy to mistake as a road. [0]: http://torontosun.com/2016/05/13/woman-follows-gps-ends-up-i...

Oh, yeah. From that picture, it took me a second to realize I wasn't looking at a wet road-top and instead water in a lake, which is very close to the same height as the surrounding road.

I'm glad it wasn't me driving there at night and in the rain, I could see myself making the same very bad mistake.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by checkdigit15 »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #457
da_chicken wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> people driving into lakes because their GPS told them to That one has actually happened: http://bgr.com/2016/05/17/car-gps-mapping-directions-lake/ It's a little unfair, though. There was heavy rain, fog, and a second article [0] says it was also in the middle of the night. The photo there also does make it look easy to mistake as a road. [0]: http://torontosun.com/2016/05/13/woman-follows-gps-ends-up-i...

Didn't this happen in an Office episode? I remember Dwight and Michael arguing in Michael's car over whether the GPS was right as it kept telling them to go right which was directly into a lake.

Yep:

"Dunder Mifflin Infinity" - Season 4 Episode 3/4

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by at-fates-hands »

bonyt wrote: post #161

This is literally an episode of Better Off Ted.[1] In it, the titular Ted is inadvertenly deleted from the company system when trying to correct a misspelling of his last name. Eventually, he is forced to interview for his own job as the system had already put out an ad for his replacement. I think the most striking part of it, and of the true story from the post, is the human factor - the idea that the humans involv…

Also very similar to the classic "forgotten employee" story which made the rounds in the early aughts:

https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by paulddraper »

elygre wrote: post #207
paulddraper wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your story is inconsistent? > I resigned just after I had gotten a promotion, but before the date when the promo was effective If I get sick before my insurance is effective...I don't get my coverage. If I resign before my raise is effective...I don't get my raise.

If you cancel the insurance effective from next month, you have coverage until the cancellation date.

Exactly. If you resign before your insurance coverage monthly renewal is effective, you don't get your insurance renewed.

All of this is what "effective" means.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by kbenson »

teekert wrote: post #243
ReverseCold wrote: post #241

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Okay this example makes sense. No prescription == no drugs (especially for painkillers and other things that people abuse). If you think this is a bad thing, then it's an organizational problem and has nothing to do with computers.

If you are a human and you can see in the computer that the prescription is regularly updated and you can even call the doctor if you doubted it. You can even check the prescription afterwards and if my story doesn't check out, do something about it. The migraine was pretty bad, imo it was like not treating a broken leg because of a missing insurance card or something.

There are very good reasons why a doctor might decide to change a prescription for someone, and listening to the patient over the doctor in some of those cases would not only be a bad idea, it could be potentially fatal or cause long lasting problems.

For example:

- Evidence of abuse of a drug.

- A second prescription which interacts badly with the first.

- Changing health circumstances (pregnancy, some sort of deficiency, failing internal systems, etc).

The correct thing to do in a case like this is to stop and coordinate with the prescribing physician. Having a pharmacist look at some change compared to how things were done prior and have a patient tell them it's a mistake and they should ignore it without consulting the prescribing physician is almost never a good idea.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by local_yokel »

pc86 wrote: post #351
DanBC wrote: post #316

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The racism comes from saying "We recognise human faces" and then not recognising a significant proportion of humans.

That's not racism, that's laziness. Or perhaps just being a bad engineer, if you want to be more cynical about it. It's not that hard to find both conscious and subconscious examples of systemic or individual racism. Engineers taking the easy path with webcam facial recognition is probably not a good one and serves only to give more fuel to those who claim people jump to the racism cry too quickly.

I agree. It's a well known problem where the training set isn't representative of the underlying population. While it can certainly be argued that the engineers should have recognized this deficiency and taken corrective action, I really don't understand why all the respondents to your post are so quick to assert racist intent based on clickbait headlines from Forbes.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by tallanvor »

pimeys wrote: post #411
daxelrod wrote: post #381

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“How are you?” “Good” Tons of people have this exchange out of politeness. The person asking “How are you?” doesn’t really want to know details. The person answering is expected to be brief and positive. It’s only among friends that the same question is expected to get an honest and detailed answer.

As a Finn I typically answer what I really feel at that moment. It creates funny situations, but in general I think if you ask me a question I should give a truthful answer. Why would you ask if you don't want to know...

It's a quirk in English. "How are you?", "How's it going?", etc. are often greetings, not serious questions.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by datanut »

exegete wrote: post #63

I am actually going through this right now. I'm in a position that renews yearly. I'm a regular employee but it's the way this kind of position works (I'm being a little vague on purpose to avoid personal identification). Before renewal I talked to the officer manager, he sent everything over to HR a few weeks early.... which seems to be the mistake. HR let it sit on their desk and then forgot. My office manager is w…

U-M? ARC-TS?

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by barkingcat »

rixed wrote: post #348
lmm wrote: post #341

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The pharmacist can, and should, use their human judgement to refuse to dispense drugs even when prescribed. But they don't and shouldn't use their human judgement to dispense drugs that weren't prescribed; this is by design and for good reason. It's a two-person rule: you only get the drugs if both the pharmacist and the doctor formally agreed you should get them.

The problem seems to be that the drug has indeed been prescribed, but the writing was erroneous. This is not about "should we freely sell drug", but about "should we use human judgment in addition to paper orders". Clearly, some commenters are also trying hard to be robot-swappable. :)

I really wouldn't be surprised if it turned out a large percentage (over 35%) of hacker news commenters originate from robots / ai / chatbots being trained / tested surreptitiously.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by tallanvor »

anchpop wrote: post #456
bb611 wrote: post #424

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SSNs should be unique, the only exceptions are fraud or errors. According to the Social Security Administration: > At its inception, the SSN's only purpose was to uniquely identify U.S. workers, enabling employers to submit accurate reports of covered earnings for use in administering benefits under the new Social Security program. That is still the primary purpose for the SSN.

They are not. SSNs can and have been reused

There have been cases where the same SSN was issued multiple times on accident, but they haven't been reused on purpose.
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