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I'm excited about this. This will boost VPN, Tor and other technologies that protect users from inane regulations. https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/cryp...
It is very easy to block VPN, Tor and other technologies. These can be in fact criminalised the same way drugs are. Possession of a VPN on your device could give you a criminal record.
Criminalizing something means nothing if the laws can't be enforced. Torrenting copyrighted works is a criminal act, and yet torrenting has never been easier after years of efforts to shut it down from all sides.
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I'm not too worried about this one. This will just mean platforms will not link to publishers. EVER It already failed in Spain and Germany, they will just shoot themselves in the foot again.
In Spain they _had to_ link to publishers, so Google has shut down their service.
I'm excited about this. This will boost VPN, Tor and other technologies that protect users from inane regulations. https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/cryp...
It is very easy to block VPN, Tor and other technologies. These can be in fact criminalised the same way drugs are. Possession of a VPN on your device could give you a criminal record.
The US lost the crypto wars, EU lost the piracy wars once, and they will lose again.
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> it is not linking but putting content that makes a platform liable All the comments quoting content would be taxable, though.
> All the comments quoting content would be taxable, though. Like this one.
Not quite. My previous comment linked to another comment. I don't believe that would be covered by this copyright proposal.
What would be covered would be a HN user posting a link to an EU publication, my reading it, and then quoting from a portion of it. The simplest fix appears to be banning linking to EU publications.
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So Google gets licenses to link to new sites for free, but smaller companies and private people's website cannot link to news sites?
Yes. Exactly.
(or you can link and replace every snippet with 'censored by the EU' or something - might be a good strategy for raising awareness)
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I expect companies to migrate to saner regulatory environments and geofilter the EU. VPN/Tor will help circumvent this.
Hm. Saner regulatory environments seem to be pretty thin on the ground, lately. Not sure I share your optimism that a significant number of companies will be willing to abandon a major world market, or to depend on a nudge-nudge-wink-wink "bypass our geofence and we'll pretend we don't notice your EU billing address" kind of thing...
This is what happens when those in control don't understand, know or care about the things they regulate. So I guess this is bad. --goes and reads article-- > Article 11, requiring online platforms to pay publishers a fee if they link to their news content, was also approved. What the fucking FUCK? Pay to send companies actual traffic? Pay to be allowed to use the basic building-block of the world wide web on the wor…
>What the fucking FUCK?
This does not surprise me!
If your site has for example 5 article titles from CNN, linking all of them to original CNN articles, probably you have more benefit from that than CNN.
People this days like to skim through titles and not even bothering to read full articles, to click link.
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You should really look up how EU regulations work.
Enlighten me please, as I don't believe the reasons for passing it are genuine.
There are still multiple checkpoints that can be used to counter this, and the proposal will almost certainly be voted on by the entire EP, probably in December/January.
That's why calling your representative makes a difference.