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>... [We] recognize the grave responsibility that those creating powerful technology have to ensure what they build is used for good, and not for harm. I don't read hear or read this sentiment nearly as often as I would like. Good on these folks for stepping up.

>Good on these folks for stepping up.

I am not American, but this is the point in time where you take a stand. Where America needs to fight for it's democracy. This is not the time to be complacent.

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Microsoft has something like 125,000 employees. 100 isn't even a rounding error.

In a week or so there will be something else for the MSM to outrage everyone about, using yet another extremely one-sided angle about some other policy that started long before Nov 2016. I simply cannot watch/read mainstream news anymore, it's such a joke. You're being lied to and manipulated on a daily basis. Weekly periodicals are the last best source of any kind of non-technical information, and maybe technical to…

It was never an enforced policy to seperate children from the parents.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's baffling to me as well. For some reason lots of Americans also don't support ID requirements for voting either. I'm from Brazil and even here we require ID for voters. I really just don't get it.

Because in the US, and unlike Brazil, Voter ID laws are specifically enacted to discourage people from voting. It’s a solution looking for a problem (voter fraud is hardly an issue in the US). The Voter ID laws are all about putting a barrier in place to prevent $DEMOGRAPHIC from voting, then making it exceedingly difficult for $DEMOGRAPHIC to pass that barrier, even though it’s well within $DEMOGRAPHIC right to vote…

> Because in the US, and unlike Brazil, Voter ID laws are specifically enacted to discourage people from voting.

How familiar are you with the voting laws in Brazil and the reasoning behind them?

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I’m not American and I’ve always found it fascinating how a part of the American population defends the existence of illegal immigrants in American soil. It’s crazy.

Is it really? Most people I know would probably contend that the illegal status of most of these people is due to flaws in our immigration system. They want this country to be a place where from all over can come to thrive if they are so motivated. The quote engraved on the Statue of Liberty comes to mind... “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teem…

Which

A) is not what the Statue of Liberty is about, it's about Liberty

B) was added well after the statue's construction and

C) is a poem, not a law of the USA.

If you really knew what Emma Lazarus's (EDIT: wrong last name used at first) views were, it might give you pause... (hint: she hated Ashkenazi Jews and saw them as low-class)

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post #14

I’m not American and I’ve always found it fascinating how a part of the American population defends the existence of illegal immigrants in American soil. It’s crazy.

Is it really? Most people I know would probably contend that the illegal status of most of these people is due to flaws in our immigration system. They want this country to be a place where from all over can come to thrive if they are so motivated. The quote engraved on the Statue of Liberty comes to mind... “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teem…

Are you ok if illegals immigrants move into your neighborhood and compete for your job?

EDIT: Why am I being downvoted?

I asked a legitimate question. If illegal immigrants moved into your neighborhood and affected the socioeconomic status, school ratings etc of your neighborhood, how will you react? Will you advocate for the same policies you are advocating now?

I have a feeling most of the people who are supporting illegal immigration don't have skin in the game.

P.S. I am not stereotyping all dreamer kids, anecdotally, my wife who works in a school told me some of her best students are dreamers.

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post #14

I’m not American and I’ve always found it fascinating how a part of the American population defends the existence of illegal immigrants in American soil. It’s crazy.

It's a country founded by immigrants and for much of its history it welcomed them (with some significant caveats). The assertion that America is only for people who are already here is both radical and relatively recent. That's what's crazy.

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post #14

I’m not American and I’ve always found it fascinating how a part of the American population defends the existence of illegal immigrants in American soil. It’s crazy.

They’re an economic boon and grateful to be here. Half of my ancestors who came here probably came illegally.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's baffling to me as well. For some reason lots of Americans also don't support ID requirements for voting either. I'm from Brazil and even here we require ID for voters. I really just don't get it.

Because in the US, and unlike Brazil, Voter ID laws are specifically enacted to discourage people from voting. It’s a solution looking for a problem (voter fraud is hardly an issue in the US). The Voter ID laws are all about putting a barrier in place to prevent $DEMOGRAPHIC from voting, then making it exceedingly difficult for $DEMOGRAPHIC to pass that barrier, even though it’s well within $DEMOGRAPHIC right to vote…

My favorite law was one passed by Texas, where a college id wasn't valid, but your NRA card was. So transparent.

I think the federal courts struck it down.

Re: Microsoft Employees Protest Work with ICE

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post #14

I’m not American and I’ve always found it fascinating how a part of the American population defends the existence of illegal immigrants in American soil. It’s crazy.

It is crazy!

For ~40 years now, people have consistently wanted restrictions on illegals coming into the country.

We have had essentially, tyrannical lawlessness at the Federal level in the refusal to seriously enforce immigration laws.

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https://www.geekwire.com/2017/microsoft-plans-triple-azure-c...

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/05/23/annou...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-china-insight-i...

https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/22/china-xinjiang-surveilla...

https://thenanfang.com/search-engine-bing-com-featuring-skew...

https://aawsat.com/english/home/article/1166416/microsoft-fo...

https://www.mmtimes.com/news/microsoft-seeks-expansion-oppor...

Will the new "moral" Microsoft now cut its ties and end its contracts with the Chinese government and Saudi Arabia? After all, they should not be supporting governments that abuse human rights. How about Myanmar, which is actually in the middle of carrying out a real life genocide?

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