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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by crankylinuxuser »

cvwright wrote: post #160
Applejinx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a video about this in January, before YouTube strongarmed Blender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ksbTTXHw8 I am pretty dismayed to be this right. I didn't think YT would be nearly this aggressive in service of the ideas I outlined. Basically, they take a cut off that activity. In some cases they could take most of or all the money, which is a clear win for them, but even when they pay out they're earning r…

Eventually this is going to get them in trouble with the Sherman Antitrust Act. From Wikipedia: > "Innocent monopoly", or monopoly achieved solely by merit, is perfectly legal, but acts by a monopolist to artificially preserve that status, or nefarious dealings to create a monopoly, are not. The purpose of the Sherman Act is not to protect competitors from harm from legitimately successful businesses, nor to prevent…

Sure, its clear to you and I. But we on HN aren't whom you have to convince.

Do you believe the US DOJ or more powerful states would go after Alphabet/google? That's the ones that count. I just can't see our current administration going that avenue.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by notafraudster »

vorpalhex wrote: post #138
ucaetano wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No, I'm suggesting that you can't change a contract (ToS) after it's been accepted without consideration. Of course you can, as long as that is specified in the contract. > These aren't terms already part of Blender's contract - which is why Youtube is literally trying to force Blender to sign a new contract and refuses to execute their original ToS. And that is allowed per the contract.

A contract in the US can't override tort law. Material change without consideration is de facto no go. This is pretty standard torts 101. You can say whatever you want in a contract but that doesn't mean the clause is valid. Furthermore ToS fall under sticker contracts which have a different level of scrutiny especially in regards to material changes post facto. YouTube knows this. This is why they are trying to get…

There was no material consideration to begin with. If I agree to paint your house for free, and put it in writing, and then later decide not to (or decide not to unless you agree to some post-hoc rule), you have no tort against me -- there was no consideration to begin with.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by Arnavion »

hundchenkatze wrote: post #69
alexbeloi wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do the creators you follow host their videos?

Not op, but op may be using the Youtube Subscription RSS feed. Go to https://www.youtube.com/subscription_manager and scroll to the bottom. You should see a section labeled "Export to RSS readers".

Oh wow, how have I never noticed that.

In fact there are individual channel feeds (" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=) and this is a wrapper around that. That's great!

I currently receive email notifications for subscriptions, but I've noticed I don't always get emails for all the uploads of some of those channels. A direct RSS feed should solve that problem too.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by cvwright »

djsumdog wrote: post #10

I'm curious what YouTube's real numbers are for YouTube profitability. Are these channels at such high subscriber rates that they're cutting into YouTube's ability to sustain themselves? They recently demonetized all of the Salad Fingers videos, causing David Firth to remove all those videos from YouTube and only allowing them to Patreon subscribers via Vimeo. I hope this pushes towards more independent, distributed…

That's a very good question. Supposing YT is still unprofitable after all these years, isn't that evidence of dumping? In other words, evidence of Google/Alphabet illegally pushing in to take over this market?

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by fusiongyro »

cvwright wrote: post #160
Applejinx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a video about this in January, before YouTube strongarmed Blender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ksbTTXHw8 I am pretty dismayed to be this right. I didn't think YT would be nearly this aggressive in service of the ideas I outlined. Basically, they take a cut off that activity. In some cases they could take most of or all the money, which is a clear win for them, but even when they pay out they're earning r…

Eventually this is going to get them in trouble with the Sherman Antitrust Act. From Wikipedia: > "Innocent monopoly", or monopoly achieved solely by merit, is perfectly legal, but acts by a monopolist to artificially preserve that status, or nefarious dealings to create a monopoly, are not. The purpose of the Sherman Act is not to protect competitors from harm from legitimately successful businesses, nor to prevent…

I fail to see how this behavior helps artificially preserve their status as a monopoly or constitutes a nefarious dealing to create a monopoly, and the fact that Blender is using this opportunity to switch to another provider is not going to reinforce your point about YouTube being a monopoly.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by ilovecomputers »

gargron wrote: post #17

Side note: PeerTube is part of the same federated network as Mastodon. You can follow Blender's PeerTube account from Mastodon by entering @blender@video.blender.org into the search bar and clicking follow on the result!

This is why I'm hyped about the fedi. This is what it'll finally take to break our dependence on a centralized web. Essentially, the email model. I wish we followed this model earlier in the web 2.0 days.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by Neirin »

gargron wrote: post #17

Side note: PeerTube is part of the same federated network as Mastodon. You can follow Blender's PeerTube account from Mastodon by entering @blender@video.blender.org into the search bar and clicking follow on the result!

oh no, now I just have even more questions, what is mastodon?
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