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Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

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Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop thinking of it as spam and start thinking of it as customer outreach? I mean you have to let people know about this magical thing you've built somehow .

No, don't stop thinking of it as spam. It is spam, and you're part of the problem. Unethical practices that work are still unethical practices.

I don't particularly enjoy these articles, but they're hardly unethical. Saying you make X/month is very similar to splashing company logos on your homepage. Service companies typically want to try to demonstrate that they're successful to attract more clients.

With startups/apps it's now popular to brag about your revenue. Keep in mind, this isn't profit, so I find the articles pretty useless. I could start a million dollar revenue company by losing money on each unit sold, but what's the point in that? (unless I'm VC-backed and have a long-term strategy for growth)

When someone writes an article about how much profit they've made per month, then I'll take notice.

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

#52

Sometimes I wonder how much of these "we started making $X/mo and heres how" are true and how much are really just more content marketing spam?

Highly unlikely to be content marketing spam. The audience for this kind of post is completely different from the audience for the product itself.

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

#53

Sometimes I wonder how much of these "we started making $X/mo and heres how" are true and how much are really just more content marketing spam?

The following is in the blog post: We relied heavily on content marketing in 2017 and continue doing so in 2018; that’s why you’re here

It's not like they try to hide it.

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

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post #50

Sometimes I wonder how much of these "we started making $X/mo and heres how" are true and how much are really just more content marketing spam?

It's probably true and a marketing effort. Keep in mind that it's rarely averaging X/month, but they made X/month at their peak. I had a great month in my previous business that was 2x all other months. If I wrote an article about that month, I'd probably seem way more profitable than I was.

Or "$25,000/month revenue and it only cost us $23,000/month in advertising."

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

#55

Sometimes I wonder how much of these "we started making $X/mo and heres how" are true and how much are really just more content marketing spam?

Want me to do a screen sharing of our Baremetrics dashboard? Reach out to me at alex at standuply.com to book a call.

Go ahead post a screenshot.

And no I would never book a call with you.

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

#56
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, don't stop thinking of it as spam. It is spam, and you're part of the problem. Unethical practices that work are still unethical practices.

I don't particularly enjoy these articles, but they're hardly unethical. Saying you make X/month is very similar to splashing company logos on your homepage. Service companies typically want to try to demonstrate that they're successful to attract more clients. With startups/apps it's now popular to brag about your revenue. Keep in mind, this isn't profit, so I find the articles pretty useless. I could start a millio…

I'm not sure we understand each other. What's unethical is sending people spam email.

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

#57
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congrats on your success! Can we see your baremetrics panel? I think for non technical founders you skipped a very important part of the story - how did you find your initial devs and how did you figure out how to work with them? how much should people set aside for this kind of thing? that really matters.

We haven't decided yet to be among Open Startups, but if you have a particular question, reach out to me at alex at standuply.com As for developers, we have some background working in tech. So it wasn't a problem.

no worries. i saw that you used baremetrics so i felt a bit voyeuristic and asked.

well, you're very lucky to have that background. some advice for others on how you worked with the initial developers would be very helpful!

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

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post #54
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably true and a marketing effort. Keep in mind that it's rarely averaging X/month, but they made X/month at their peak. I had a great month in my previous business that was 2x all other months. If I wrote an article about that month, I'd probably seem way more profitable than I was.

Or "$25,000/month revenue and it only cost us $23,000/month in advertising."

Or "Only $32,000/mo in ads!"

Re: Slack Bot Business Tutorial: From zero to $25k per month

#60

Sometimes I wonder how much of these "we started making $X/mo and heres how" are true and how much are really just more content marketing spam?

Want me to do a screen sharing of our Baremetrics dashboard? Reach out to me at alex at standuply.com to book a call.

No one wants to call you, please stop this spam.
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