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Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#31
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, they picked the wrong org to gamble on strongarming in the case of Blender. Instead of getting them to monetize they've just compelled Blender to move platforms.

Other than unlikely damage to the total user critical mass effect, what does YouTube potentially lose from kicking blender out?

Visibility for a viable alternative?

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#32
post #28

Since I’m a paying YouTube Red customer, I filed a complaint. I think if enough people write in, they’ll change their mind.

Is this something you do via the YouTubeRed app or did you literally write a complaint and emailed it in? I would like to do the same.

I sent feedback from the YouTube app while on a blocked video. It gives you the options to contact them via chat, phone or email (the last one is composed all within the app, not in your email client).

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#33

It makes sense that YouTube would do this. I've been expecting YouTube to go after channels that are primarily supported by Patreon donations with full teeth and claws for awhile now, and still expect it is coming. Channels not running ads reduced YouTube to a free video hosting service and cuts them out of the revenue loop completely. Their main goal, as I see it, is to transition into a centralized and much more co…

> I've been expecting YouTube to go after channels that are primarily supported by Patreon donations with full teeth and claws for awhile now...

An alternative solution would be for youtube to compete with patreon, allow sponsorship directly and take a cut. They have in fact been testing this on select channels. On some big channels you see a "sponsor" button next to the "subscribe" button.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#34
So YouTube created an effective monopoly through social networking, and now is abusing that position.

Not surprising but disappointing. Hopefully people leave YouTube in droves and remind them that their position is not static.

First time hearing of PeerTube, but looks good so far.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#35

Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't? That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.

If I skipped Hanlon's Razor and jumped to assuming your speculations are right, then I'd say Google wants to head off a future where people specifically donate to those who aren't doing ad-monetizing (i.e. the only ones who actually deserve donations!!)

Google wants creators funded, but they want the system to push their ad-focused approach. The last thing Google wants is a future where the (unethical, horrible, destructive) surveillance-capitalism-ad-tech economy goes away…

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#36

Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't? That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.

There are channels that have direct sponsors, I think sometimes the deal with the sponsor is to not monetize the video, so if I get sponsored by Intel I would have to turn off the ads in case an AMD ad would show up.

This is a speculation of mine from what I observed on some tech channels I am not familiar with YT Terms and Conditions.

If you get third party sponsors and not allow monetization is YT getting nothing? If yes then we can see what they are trying to make here.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#37

So YouTube created an effective monopoly through social networking, and now is abusing that position. Not surprising but disappointing. Hopefully people leave YouTube in droves and remind them that their position is not static. First time hearing of PeerTube, but looks good so far.

> now is abusing that position

Offering to host your videos for free and display ads along them hardly seems like "abusing that position"...

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#38

Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't? That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.

If its not monetized, then YouTube has no way to make money off the views; no way to recoup the costs associated with hosting those videos. History, morality, and good will aside, its in their financial best interest to not allow videos which are not monetized.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#39
post #30

Since I’m a paying YouTube Red customer, I filed a complaint. I think if enough people write in, they’ll change their mind.

As a fellow paying YouTube Red customer, this hadn't occurred to me. I shall do so as well.

As a fellow paying YouTube Premium user I'm glad that YouTube is taking this step to insure the long-term viability of the platform I pay to support.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#40

Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't? That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.

Wait, a company wants to make money on its free service?

Shocking.

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