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Office 365 is being completely rewritten in JavaScript

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Re: Office 365 is being completely rewritten in JavaScript

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Post by alfredallan1 »

dentemple wrote: post #215
alfredallan1 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a good thought. As bad as JS is, I’d still prefer it to VBA.

Having had to write both, professionally... You've just never seen the monstrosity that is enterprise-level VBA. Javascript is a godsend over VBA.

^^ word. Been in the same boat..

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Post by cirgue »

PunchTornado wrote: post #48
FridgeSeal wrote: post #39

So of all the good, far more suitable languages they could use, we're getting it written the flaming pile of trash that is JavaScript? Why though?

because it is not a pile of trash. the programmer can be a pile of trash though.

So I think “pile of trash” might be a bit too far, but JavaScript is a weird choice for one major reason: most languages have several objective technical and strategiec advantages. JavaScript has exactly two: it is the only language available in a browser, and it is on a large number of people’s resumes. There is no technical dimension of JavaScript that makes it the best choice for any task outside the browser, and the commonality advantage is shared by many other languages. If anyone has a good counter argument, I would love to hear it. I’m not saying that to be snarky, I genuinely want to hear perspectives in defense of JS other than “well it’s a good language because so many people use it and it’s better than it used to be”

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

youdontknowtho wrote: post #292
adreamingsoul wrote: post #286

Seriously? This is a bad idea, and I say that as a engineer who writes a lot of JavaScript.

They are using TypeScript for large scale projects.

Which is an even worse idea. In widespread practice, I regularly work with developers who can't even master JavaScript. To blithely toss another CoffeeScript in the mix is foolish if you ask me.

Re: Office 365 is being completely rewritten in JavaScript

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Post by cmjqol »

jhall1468 wrote: post #227
chrisseaton wrote: post #212

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I also think it’s extremely unlikely MS is announcing an new native code compiler for JavaScript, something I’m not sure anyone knows how to do with reasonable performance, with a Tweet this casual.

Web Views with native API's. So not truly native compilation.

Has been said many many many times , it's not electron for Windows 10 , it's React Native .NET which bridges the built in Javascript VM with WPF. So it's not a web view for UWP, it's 100% native code.

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Post by danmg »

megaman22 wrote: post #162
DougN7 wrote: post #98

Ugggh :( I miss my old Outlook 2013. Outlook 2016 is so slow it can’t keep up wirh my typing. I thought it already was javascript. Guess it will be even slower still. Super! (not)

2003 was the sweet spot, I always thought. I still have a usb stick with a portable copy of Word 2003 on it from somewhere, that I pull out when Word 2016 starts crashing and locking up.

2007 because of docx support.

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Post by random42_ »

ksec wrote: post #143

One Day Microsoft made VSCode and everyone loves them. The Second day Microsoft decide to buy GitHub and everyone were flocking off to Gitlab, everyone hates them. Now they are moving to the biblical end of computing era by making every Javascript. May be they will even Open Source the Windows Kernel some day.

Now they are moving to the biblical end of computing era by making every Javascript. Does that means the apocalypse is upon us?

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Post by crooked-v »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #295
youdontknowtho wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are using TypeScript for large scale projects.

Which is an even worse idea. In widespread practice, I regularly work with developers who can't even master JavaScript. To blithely toss another CoffeeScript in the mix is foolish if you ask me.

You may want to actually learn what Typescript is before blithely making such comments.

Re: Office 365 is being completely rewritten in JavaScript

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

crooked-v wrote: post #299
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is an even worse idea. In widespread practice, I regularly work with developers who can't even master JavaScript. To blithely toss another CoffeeScript in the mix is foolish if you ask me.

You may want to actually learn what Typescript is before blithely making such comments.

Yeah, I know what Typescript is. It's another transpiled language. I don't care what the syntax looks like, the point is you've added a secondary level of knowledge required to operate in a codebase written in it, and most don't fluently know the first. Please tell me more about what I don't know.
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