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Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by jacobolus »

fjsolwmv wrote: post #154
PebblesRox wrote: post #128

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I love Teacher Tom's mindset. He views risky activities as essential for kids to learn how to be safe. While supervision is important, meddling is unhelpful. They can do a lot when we step back and let them explore their own physical capabilities. I've adopted his phrase: "I won't help you, but I won't let you get hurt." http://teachertomsblog.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-process-of-r... I love how he makes ridiculous su…

I don't understand. Obviously the kids learned that by their parental authoritu drilling a false myth into their heads, not by direct experience and critical thinking.

Not sure I would call this a “false myth”. Obviously most of the time these shocks don’t cause serious injury, but from what I can tell from a quick web search thousands of kids every year end up in the emergency room after sticking stuff in wall sockets or grabbing cords with missing insulation.

Sure though, it would probably be better to let them play with circuits plugged into a non-lethal battery and get a few minor zaps, then explain that connecting a circuit with your body between the two sides of a wall socket could cause severe burns, other serious health problems, or even a fatal cardiac arrest if you are unlucky.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by jessaustin »

scotty79 wrote: post #200
Double_a_92 wrote: post #194

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The higher standard of both partners should apply, and should be held-up by the partner that stays at home. If they don't match there's something wrong. E.g. if you want fresh warm food for dinner and your wife just always buys microwave food because she doens't like to cook, then you got the wrong wife (resp. she got the wrong husband). Or if your are a slob and mess up the house, and your wife nags you to clean up…

My approach is, when you want something done, you have to be ready to do it yourself or stop wanting it. If you want home cooked meal and your wife doesn't cook for her own pleasure they you can ask her to do it for you, if she does, you must thank her, if she refuses, you must accept and respect her decision and either stop wanting home cooked meals or make them yourself. Of same approach should be applied by both s…

Thanks for this! As my own marriage approaches, it is disheartening to see things like GP post. What you have here makes much more sense to me.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by namarie »

yesenadam wrote: post #130
cambalache wrote: post #52

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My friend, this was something that surprised me 15-20 years ago when thanks to the Internet I started to interact with Americans. At the end Western is a code word for White dominated places or sometimes just Anglo. This came from Huntington's Clash of Civilizations a profoundly ignorant work. As you wrote you can live in Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo or Mexico City, huge cosmopolitan places, maybe you have some recent rel…

That's one of the greatest comments I've read on here. 100% gringo here, UK-born Australian. About 10 years ago I started meeting latin americans online (also filipinos), I liked them so much I learnt spanish and was soon chatting online 95% with latin american friends. Played Clash of Clans in a colombian clan hehe, love watching online chess tournament commentary in spanish etc. Am starting to love Portuguese too.…

> Would the downvoters care to explain why? It's not a surprise :-) but hearing why would be....enlightening. Thanks.

Your comment has a condescending tone towards the people you claim to like. As if they're some king of exotic animal that you are so priviledged to watch in their natural habitat, and shame on these crazy western people who are oh so racist! There's plenty of tourists like that here in Brazil, and it rubs plenty of us off in the wrong way.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by namarie »

coldtea wrote: post #77
jordigh wrote: post #27

I know this is a bit petty, but I've stared to resent a little that even though I'm Mexican, I'm not considered Western. What am I, then? Eastern? Central? Southern? I'm not just arguing about the geography, but about the culture. I feel much more like a Canadian or a USian (or a Guatemalan) than I feel like an African, Middle Easter, East Asian, or South Asian. I speak the same languages as Europe, have been mostly…

> I know this is a bit petty, but I've stared to resent a little that even though I'm Mexican, I'm not considered Western. What am I, then? Eastern? Central? Southern? It's not about the geography. It's more about development (e.g. money) and culture -- and in essence an arbitrary historical capture of the term by Western Europeans and WASP-like Americans to mean themselves. It's best to not thing such terms as about…

Most of us brazilians see ourselves as western... It's not a question of being a member of a club, it's how most of us define most of our heritage, so somebody denying that seems at best very awkward and at worst very offensive.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by Double_a_92 »

scotty79 wrote: post #200
Double_a_92 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The higher standard of both partners should apply, and should be held-up by the partner that stays at home. If they don't match there's something wrong. E.g. if you want fresh warm food for dinner and your wife just always buys microwave food because she doens't like to cook, then you got the wrong wife (resp. she got the wrong husband). Or if your are a slob and mess up the house, and your wife nags you to clean up…

My approach is, when you want something done, you have to be ready to do it yourself or stop wanting it. If you want home cooked meal and your wife doesn't cook for her own pleasure they you can ask her to do it for you, if she does, you must thank her, if she refuses, you must accept and respect her decision and either stop wanting home cooked meals or make them yourself. Of same approach should be applied by both s…

But then why do I need a wife? To be clear I was talking about 100% stay-at-home wifes. If she's also working 100% at some other job than it's another story. (Then the question is more why 2 people in a household have to work 100%...)

Maybe there is some specific thing that she especially dislikes for some reason... Or maybe there is something that only you like, and takes a lot of effort to do... But in general the stay-at-home partner should care (and do sacrifices) for the family.

Otherwise that's the point? To have one more mouth to feed at home?

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by jessaustin »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #205
scotty79 wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My approach is, when you want something done, you have to be ready to do it yourself or stop wanting it. If you want home cooked meal and your wife doesn't cook for her own pleasure they you can ask her to do it for you, if she does, you must thank her, if she refuses, you must accept and respect her decision and either stop wanting home cooked meals or make them yourself. Of same approach should be applied by both s…

But then why do I need a wife? To be clear I was talking about 100% stay-at-home wifes. If she's also working 100% at some other job than it's another story. (Then the question is more why 2 people in a household have to work 100%...) Maybe there is some specific thing that she especially dislikes for some reason... Or maybe there is something that only you like, and takes a lot of effort to do... But in general the…

If this is the reason you thought you needed a wife, maybe what you need is a housekeeper? Or, perhaps it's time to start using one of those meal delivery services?

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by scotty79 »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #205
scotty79 wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My approach is, when you want something done, you have to be ready to do it yourself or stop wanting it. If you want home cooked meal and your wife doesn't cook for her own pleasure they you can ask her to do it for you, if she does, you must thank her, if she refuses, you must accept and respect her decision and either stop wanting home cooked meals or make them yourself. Of same approach should be applied by both s…

But then why do I need a wife? To be clear I was talking about 100% stay-at-home wifes. If she's also working 100% at some other job than it's another story. (Then the question is more why 2 people in a household have to work 100%...) Maybe there is some specific thing that she especially dislikes for some reason... Or maybe there is something that only you like, and takes a lot of effort to do... But in general the…

> But then why do I need a wife?

For emotional reasons. People function better when they are under the impression that there exists another human being that gives a shit about them, that respects them, that will listen to them and actually care what they say. People without spouse sometimes find hard to convince themselves that this is the case.

If you are emotionless person maybe you really don't need a wife. Cooking and cleaning services are cheaper than wife. You also don't need a child because they are expensive and give no benefit. If you have them as an "old age insurance" you might get very disappointed because support from your child as you get old depends on how much emotional connection with you they had and that might be lacking if you are a person that finds money more important than emotions.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by Double_a_92 »

jessaustin wrote: post #206
Double_a_92 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then why do I need a wife? To be clear I was talking about 100% stay-at-home wifes. If she's also working 100% at some other job than it's another story. (Then the question is more why 2 people in a household have to work 100%...) Maybe there is some specific thing that she especially dislikes for some reason... Or maybe there is something that only you like, and takes a lot of effort to do... But in general the…

If this is the reason you thought you needed a wife, maybe what you need is a housekeeper? Or, perhaps it's time to start using one of those meal delivery services?

In parts at least yes... and children. Which result in love and a family.

But if women nowadays refuse to do both those things, that also fails.

What is a wife else? Some female room mate, that pays rent with "love" whenever she feels like it?

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by scotty79 »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #208
jessaustin wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is the reason you thought you needed a wife, maybe what you need is a housekeeper? Or, perhaps it's time to start using one of those meal delivery services?

In parts at least yes... and children. Which result in love and a family. But if women nowadays refuse to do both those things, that also fails. What is a wife else? Some female room mate, that pays rent with "love" whenever she feels like it?

> What is a wife else? Some female room mate, that pays rent with "love" whenever she feels like it?

Life-long friend that supports you however she is able to, respects you, accepts you and lies to you so you can feel that you are a better person than you actually are, which altogether helps you with achieving whatever goals you aim to achieve.

Personal advice for you. Please wait with marrying someone till "having another mouth to feed" and "rent" is a rounding error on your salary so you can learn to appreciate other things.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by jessaustin »

scotty79 wrote: post #209
Double_a_92 wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In parts at least yes... and children. Which result in love and a family. But if women nowadays refuse to do both those things, that also fails. What is a wife else? Some female room mate, that pays rent with "love" whenever she feels like it?

> What is a wife else? Some female room mate, that pays rent with "love" whenever she feels like it? Life-long friend that supports you however she is able to, respects you, accepts you and lies to you so you can feel that you are a better person than you actually are, which altogether helps you with achieving whatever goals you aim to achieve. Personal advice for you. Please wait with marrying someone till "having a…

This may be good advice for this particular situation, but it's kind of grim if we generalize. Should only those with corporate-approved existences procreate? Maybe we should ask the corporations...

Mature humans can relate to and support each other in a marriage in both easy and difficult situations. There are limits, of course, because humans, but if everyone waited until everything was sorted out to get married there would be like ten marriages a year.

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