> "To date, Autopilot resources have rightly focused entirely on safety. With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features," he said. Running cars into medians at 70 mph is the result of "focus[ing] entirely on safety?" Now they're going to focus on other things, besides safety?
New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
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Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#32When is Tesla going to bite the bullet and issue a full recall so they can retrofit all existing Tesla cars with LIDAR? They are still claiming on their website: > "All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver." ...but without LIDAR that simply isn't true. Either the accident…
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16988628/elon-musk-lidar-s...
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're changing the meaning by adding the word "related." Say Microsoft stated it would "will begin to enable full 8K features" on the XBox One. That would mean that something would be in 8K--maybe just for movies but not games. It wouldn't mean "features related to 8K" but not a actually being able to display 8K video anywhere.
Your interpretation seems to be that if the car is ever in a "fully autonomous" state, then it's "fully autonomous". Thus if a "fully autonomous feature" is enabled (such as on the highway), that's full autonomy even if that feature is disabled automatically in other situations (such as in the city). Some people would interpret "fully autonomous" to mean end-to-end autonomy, sort of like enabling a "full encryption"…
Even limited full-autonomy seems totally out of the reach of Tesla given what we know to date.
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#34[1]https://www.nhtsa.gov/technology-innovation/automated-vehicl...
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#35To make it clear: the headline is completely wrong. Musk only announced a step towards autonomy which could be anything, but certainly not full autonomy. It could be as simple as extended self parking. From a software engineering perspective it is an interesting announcement. With all the obvious limitations of the current autopilot, Tesla must have been working on a very different package for full autonomy - we migh…
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're changing the meaning by adding the word "related." Say Microsoft stated it would "will begin to enable full 8K features" on the XBox One. That would mean that something would be in 8K--maybe just for movies but not games. It wouldn't mean "features related to 8K" but not a actually being able to display 8K video anywhere.
Your interpretation seems to be that if the car is ever in a "fully autonomous" state, then it's "fully autonomous". Thus if a "fully autonomous feature" is enabled (such as on the highway), that's full autonomy even if that feature is disabled automatically in other situations (such as in the city). Some people would interpret "fully autonomous" to mean end-to-end autonomy, sort of like enabling a "full encryption"…
What this means is that a large number of people are going to be deceived by statements like this from Musk, even if you think what Musk is saying is technically true, because they interpreted/misinterpreted Musk's statement the same way rayiner did.
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#37> "To date, Autopilot resources have rightly focused entirely on safety. With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features," he said. Running cars into medians at 70 mph is the result of "focus[ing] entirely on safety?" Now they're going to focus on other things, besides safety?
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#38When is Tesla going to bite the bullet and issue a full recall so they can retrofit all existing Tesla cars with LIDAR? They are still claiming on their website: > "All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver." ...but without LIDAR that simply isn't true. Either the accident…
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#39Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#40When is Tesla going to bite the bullet and issue a full recall so they can retrofit all existing Tesla cars with LIDAR? They are still claiming on their website: > "All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver." ...but without LIDAR that simply isn't true. Either the accident…
Tesla disagrees with you on this, they are still operating with the belief that cameras will eventually be superior and cheaper compared to LIDAR. https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16988628/elon-musk-lidar-s...
But if you talk with the leading experts in the field of car automation, the research groups who are actually making it work to some degree today, they are all using LIDAR. Furthermore you have people like the CTO of Mobileye saying that Tesla was trying to push Mobileye's tech beyond what it's capable of (past tense was, because Mobileye apparently dropped Tesla over this, prompting Tesla to develop their own presumably equivalent non-LIDAR solution in house): https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/09/tesla-dropped-by-mobile...