In the last 12 months it’s become clear that Musk relies on the same defensive self-aggrandizing bluster that makes Trump so ridiculous. Quite a quick trip down from demigod for him.
New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
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Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
The headline misquotes Musk. He did not announce full autonomy.
That's exactly what he announced: > With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features The caveat ("begin to enable") doesn't change things. You might be at the beginning of pregnancy, but you're fully pregnant.
Some features of self driving, not the whole package. Eg. a better parking assistant.
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#23In the last 12 months it’s become clear that Musk relies on the same defensive self-aggrandizing bluster that makes Trump so ridiculous. Quite a quick trip down from demigod for him.
There's always been an element of this to Musk's marketing, but it's gotten much more obvious lately, alright.
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#24> "To date, Autopilot resources have rightly focused entirely on safety. With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features," he said. Running cars into medians at 70 mph is the result of "focus[ing] entirely on safety?" Now they're going to focus on other things, besides safety?
"Now, our cars will focus on Jersey barriers as well."
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's exactly what he announced: > With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features The caveat ("begin to enable") doesn't change things. You might be at the beginning of pregnancy, but you're fully pregnant.
> The caveat ("begin to enable") doesn't change things. You might be at the beginning of pregnancy, but you're fully pregnant. That would be correct if the Musk quote said they would "begin to enable" full autonomy . That assertion is distinguishable from beginning to enable features related to autonomy.
You're changing the meaning by adding the word "related." Say Microsoft stated it would "will begin to enable full 8K features" on the XBox One. That would mean that something would be in 8K--maybe just for movies but not games. It wouldn't mean "features related to 8K" but not a actually being able to display 8K video anywhere.
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#26Why bother with autonomy crap? Just focus on making cheap electric cars that can save the planet.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The caveat ("begin to enable") doesn't change things. You might be at the beginning of pregnancy, but you're fully pregnant. That would be correct if the Musk quote said they would "begin to enable" full autonomy . That assertion is distinguishable from beginning to enable features related to autonomy.
You're changing the meaning by adding the word "related." Say Microsoft stated it would "will begin to enable full 8K features" on the XBox One. That would mean that something would be in 8K--maybe just for movies but not games. It wouldn't mean "features related to 8K" but not a actually being able to display 8K video anywhere.
Your interpretation seems to be that if the car is ever in a "fully autonomous" state, then it's "fully autonomous". Thus if a "fully autonomous feature" is enabled (such as on the highway), that's full autonomy even if that feature is disabled automatically in other situations (such as in the city). Some people would interpret "fully autonomous" to mean end-to-end autonomy, sort of like enabling a "full encryption" feature on a chat application doesn't make chats on that application "fully encrypted".
[EDIT: Given the medium and proposition, the appropriate interpretation seems to be the narrower one.]
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The caveat ("begin to enable") doesn't change things. You might be at the beginning of pregnancy, but you're fully pregnant. That would be correct if the Musk quote said they would "begin to enable" full autonomy . That assertion is distinguishable from beginning to enable features related to autonomy.
You're changing the meaning by adding the word "related." Say Microsoft stated it would "will begin to enable full 8K features" on the XBox One. That would mean that something would be in 8K--maybe just for movies but not games. It wouldn't mean "features related to 8K" but not a actually being able to display 8K video anywhere.
If say, Tesla would now be able to parallel park all the time without human intervention or oversight, would that not be considered a fully autonomous feature?
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#29When is Tesla going to bite the bullet and issue a full recall so they can retrofit all existing Tesla cars with LIDAR?
They are still claiming on their website:
>"All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver."
...but without LIDAR that simply isn't true. Either the accident rate is going to accelerate, or their efforts to push out "full self-driving capability" will stall. And from what we've seen from this company so far, I'm afraid it's going to be the first. A recall to retrofit LIDAR is the only way they can save themselves from their marketing lie. They need to bite the bullet and fess up.
Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says
#30"...With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features," he said. "...begin to enable..." - bit of a jump to "full autonomy"
Begin to enable*
*Terms and conditions still apply, so it's totally your fault if your get into a crash while in the new "fully self-driving" mode.