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They're not doing well, but they have 41% of the market share? Apple and Google dream of having that kind of market share.
They're not doing well, but they have 41% of the market share? Apple and Google dream of having that kind of market share.
If only market shares were fixed numbers. Myspace was doing very well before facebook came along. How could a current (and falling, in nokia's case) market share garantee anything about the future?
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Impressive efforts can still come to nothing, and so far the numbers aren't favorable. I got and started developing for the N900 when it came out, because I absolutely support the effort of truly being open source that Nokia is betting on. It's just not working out so far. There are no users, the platform is immature, the N900 is not a good phone for users or developers, and most importantly: the Ovi Store is terribl…
From what I've seen with the N8 prototypes, it looks, feels better than Symbian 5th and it's faster too. Some people have been using the N8 more than myself and told me that they are happy with them. Still, anything can happen :) N900 was a cool project, but they didn't take it all the way to a commercial product IMO. It registered poorer sales than Symbian and it's always a bit behind when it comes to services & sof…
Secondly, downloading an app after buying it is very slow and frustrating. It involves adding a special APT repository with a unique key, and APT on the device is unusably slow.
Third, actually publishing on the store is, as far as I can tell, practically impossible unless you have a company and the name of that company is Rovio.
Third, they have no decent categories, no search functionality worth mentioning, very little information about each app... the list goes on.
As a final nail in the coffin, the prices are much higher than in the Android or iOS stores.
This is all from when I tried the store, needless to say I haven't felt any desire to relive the experience again so things may have changed. I really doubt they've fixed it though.
I don't know if you've used the store on a symbian device, the experience may be better there, but my experience was indeed terrible on the N900.
I really don't see Nokia turning around and putting out a fantastic mobile OS with a well-integrated experience that grabs customers, just like I have a hard time seeing Microsoft managing it. Although, Microsoft do have Xbox Live they could leverage.
So what will be their OS of choice for sub $150 phones with a keypad and without a large touchscreen? Or will that category of phone simply disappear?
Definitely. I would bet a lot that the cheap (between $50-$150) phones few years from now will be basic medium-size touchscreen phones running something like Android and equipped with a bit older hardware, maybe a generation or two behind. The cheapest Android phone I can find in my country is Samsung Galaxy 5, for 224€. And that's only two years down the Android lane. Two more years, and we're close.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/03/huawei-ideos-hands-on/
"this thing is going to be launching for somewhere between $100 and $200 unsubsidized in Europe, Asia, and both North and Latin America. It's got 3G, WiFi, mobile hotspot capability for up to eight devices, and was apparently developed in direct partnership with Google, a sign that Mountain View is serious about taking Android 2.2 across the entire price spectrum."
They're not doing well, but they have 41% of the market share? Apple and Google dream of having that kind of market share.
If only market shares were fixed numbers. Myspace was doing very well before facebook came along. How could a current (and falling, in nokia's case) market share garantee anything about the future?
Now, they've actually started to put up competitive phones in the mid-high-end of market, and top high-end coming in spring, so I'm not sure Nokia's going to fall that much.
Symbian is dead [0]. It has been for a while. And Nokia will be too unless it adopts a new strategy very quickly. The figures from the article make this crystal clear: "Symbian's global market share has gone from 51 percent in the second quarter of 2009 to 41 percent in the same period of 2010". It's equally clear that it is Android that has hastened its demise. It am still astonished when I remember Nokia buying (th…
Do you think they could finish porting Qt to Android and move their whole environment that way?
Symbian is dead [0]. It has been for a while. And Nokia will be too unless it adopts a new strategy very quickly. The figures from the article make this crystal clear: "Symbian's global market share has gone from 51 percent in the second quarter of 2009 to 41 percent in the same period of 2010". It's equally clear that it is Android that has hastened its demise. It am still astonished when I remember Nokia buying (th…
More nonsense from the people that can't bother with studying the subject even a bit before speaking. You seem to be unaware of the developments with Nokia and Symbian for the past one or two years. They are making an impressive effort to engage developers and they have made the development much more simpler and straightforward. People that have been developing for Android/iPhone have told me that the Qt SDK is compe…
I love Qt and I'd love to develop for Symbian.
I'm working on a Qt desktop app that might be a good candidate for a mobile port.
>>>I can't even find a Symbian phone in the US to develop on.I can't see any way to begin mobile development from the US at all - except order a Symbian phone from overseas or something. If you can't start work, it doesn't matter how easy things are.
(and yes, any Symbian folks who want to help me are welcome to come up with solutions)
Symbian is dead [0]. It has been for a while. And Nokia will be too unless it adopts a new strategy very quickly. The figures from the article make this crystal clear: "Symbian's global market share has gone from 51 percent in the second quarter of 2009 to 41 percent in the same period of 2010". It's equally clear that it is Android that has hastened its demise. It am still astonished when I remember Nokia buying (th…
More nonsense from the people that can't bother with studying the subject even a bit before speaking. You seem to be unaware of the developments with Nokia and Symbian for the past one or two years. They are making an impressive effort to engage developers and they have made the development much more simpler and straightforward. People that have been developing for Android/iPhone have told me that the Qt SDK is compe…
Symbian is dead [0]. It has been for a while. And Nokia will be too unless it adopts a new strategy very quickly. The figures from the article make this crystal clear: "Symbian's global market share has gone from 51 percent in the second quarter of 2009 to 41 percent in the same period of 2010". It's equally clear that it is Android that has hastened its demise. It am still astonished when I remember Nokia buying (th…
More nonsense from the people that can't bother with studying the subject even a bit before speaking. You seem to be unaware of the developments with Nokia and Symbian for the past one or two years. They are making an impressive effort to engage developers and they have made the development much more simpler and straightforward. People that have been developing for Android/iPhone have told me that the Qt SDK is compe…
I applaud the idea behind the Symbian Foundation, but it was too late to tackle Apple and Google.
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1 or 2 years? No. Lots of cheap (and some that aren't even all that cheap) Nokia phones here in Italy still are still sold with S40, which is the step below Symbian. And that's still in "the west". I don't know what phones are like in places like India, but I assume that the low end is fairly low end...
I have no trouble at all imagining that 100€ (unsubsidized) Android phones will be available soon. You can buy a 210€ (unsubsidized) phone from HTC right now on Amazon. That’s not far off. That’s not a sudden death – I’m pretty sure that you will be able to buy Symbian phones in two years – but I think that there will be far less dumbphones in the future.
Or not! Interesting stuff in any case.
