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Sony Ericsson abandons Symbian for Android and WP7

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Re: Sony Ericsson abandons Symbian for Android and WP7

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Symbian is dead [0]. It has been for a while. And Nokia will be too unless it adopts a new strategy very quickly. The figures from the article make this crystal clear: "Symbian's global market share has gone from 51 percent in the second quarter of 2009 to 41 percent in the same period of 2010". It's equally clear that it is Android that has hastened its demise.

It am still astonished when I remember Nokia buying (the rest of) Symbian in June 2008. This seemed a bizarre waste of money. And so it proved. (The purchase of Trolltech was earlier, but surprising nonetheless.) Perhaps if they had done so years earlier, and open sourced it, then things might have been different.

My opinion on the failure of Symbian was the failure to enagage developers. That, and the most tortuous development environment and deployemnt process that I have ever witnessed. Perhaps this could have been fixed, given time, starting earlier, but corporate institutions historically don't behave in ways to allow this. Regardless, it was much to late by the spending sprees of 2008.

Nokia should shunt Symbina into the siding now and adopt Android immediately. It should get back to making great phones.

[0] It has its place in some phones, arguably, but how long would you choose to continue to develop and support it when there is no long term need.

Re: Sony Ericsson abandons Symbian for Android and WP7

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Is still Sony-Ericsson relevant on the smartphone market?

Android phones made by SE are still based on the 1.5, 1.6 version and even the top of the noch, the Xperia X10, will not receive 2.1 till end of october...

It's sad but SE will not be missed by Symbian.

Re: Sony Ericsson abandons Symbian for Android and WP7

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Sony Ericsson isn't that heavily into Symbian anyway. Most of their phones use a Java platform run on top of an OS - Symbian being one of the OSs, but they also use proprietary OSs for the cheaper phones. It was Java that was their focus.

They are just riding the Android and Win7 wave, while the competition isn't too high, and in the long term, I predict they will focus on their own platforms again. There's no other reason why Samasung would be developing Bada for example.

Re: Sony Ericsson abandons Symbian for Android and WP7

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It's a damning indictment of Symbian's failure that the HN crowd can't summon the energy to debate it. RIP Symbian. You served a purpose, but now it's time to die.

Ok, for the sake of argument: there are a ton of people in the world who cannot afford a high end iPhone or even Android system. Are they not a viable market? I'm not sure whether Symbian is the best OS there, either, to be honest, but I do think that market bears consideration.

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So what will be their OS of choice for sub $150 phones with a keypad and without a large touchscreen? Or will that category of phone simply disappear?

Definitely.

I would bet a lot that the cheap (between $50-$150) phones few years from now will be basic medium-size touchscreen phones running something like Android and equipped with a bit older hardware, maybe a generation or two behind.

The cheapest Android phone I can find in my country is Samsung Galaxy 5, for 224€. And that's only two years down the Android lane. Two more years, and we're close.

Re: Sony Ericsson abandons Symbian for Android and WP7

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It's a damning indictment of Symbian's failure that the HN crowd can't summon the energy to debate it. RIP Symbian. You served a purpose, but now it's time to die.

Ok, for the sake of argument: there are a ton of people in the world who cannot afford a high end iPhone or even Android system. Are they not a viable market? I'm not sure whether Symbian is the best OS there, either, to be honest, but I do think that market bears consideration.

Don’t you think that really cheap Android phones will be a possibility in one to two years? That seems plausible to me.

Re: Sony Ericsson abandons Symbian for Android and WP7

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Symbian is dead [0]. It has been for a while. And Nokia will be too unless it adopts a new strategy very quickly. The figures from the article make this crystal clear: "Symbian's global market share has gone from 51 percent in the second quarter of 2009 to 41 percent in the same period of 2010". It's equally clear that it is Android that has hastened its demise. It am still astonished when I remember Nokia buying (th…

More nonsense from the people that can't bother with studying the subject even a bit before speaking. You seem to be unaware of the developments with Nokia and Symbian for the past one or two years.

They are making an impressive effort to engage developers and they have made the development much more simpler and straightforward. People that have been developing for Android/iPhone have told me that the Qt SDK is competitive with those other tools when it comes to ease of development and speed of development. See: http://gigaom.com/2010/09/15/whats-it-like-to-develop-apps-f...

As for Nokia switching to Android, see this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/24/editorial-nokia-isnt-buil...

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