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Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by vuln » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:27 PM UTC

xapata wrote: post #196

Tiktaalik wrote: post #190

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People without as much money as you would probably prefer more robust public transportation systems, which Uber/Lyft compete against.

Oh, sure, I'd prefer a better transit system, too. But in the meantime, I'd rather have more choice than less. Uber costs less than a taxi, so this is giving poor(er) people more choice.

Until the VC money runs out and the poor(er) have zero choice. Those people chose to give their money to Lyft / Uber instead of supporting their local public transit. Fast forward through Uber/Lyft's 'disruption' the local public transit shuts down due to lack of funds for maintenance, upgrades, etc. The public transportation ridership will be at an all time low, so it would be very hard to get tax payers to shoulder the burden of the costs... Seems like a sad state for the future.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by jessaustin » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:30 PM UTC

xapata wrote: post #145

StavrosK wrote: post #140

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but nobody is going to be able to afford to pay hotel rates for their permanent residence.

Depends on the kind of hotel. And after the market settles, hotel rates may not be as high. A key aspect of hotel rates is that they fluctuate with demand. When you come into town for the big event, the rates may be 4 times higher than staying on a cold, boring night. A long-term stay will be much cheaper per-night than a nightly rate.

In my part of midwest USA, multiple giant hotels seem to be nearing completion: EIFS is nearly complete, windows have been in a couple of months, concrete parking lot is poured, etc. Apparently investors are expecting a lot more travelers to this thoroughly ordinary area.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by cwkoss » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:30 PM UTC

padthai wrote: post #210

cwkoss wrote: post #207

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I think part of the issue is that AirBnb is probably not very good at catching a banned user making a new account. I don't think they ask for users' IDs. Presumably anyone could sign up with a fake name and a prepaid credit card, act wild, get banned, and repeat the process. Determining the identity of an online user can be pretty hard. AirBnB doesn't want to add verification steps that will cause attrition in the re…

I had to upload a a national id or passport when I registered.

Ah, they must have added this since I used them. Probably a smart move on their part.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by humanrebar » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:31 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #53

humanrebar wrote: post #34

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New York doesn't enforce double parking, jaywalking, and other "good neighbor" and safety laws. Why is this one special?

> New York doesn't enforce double parking, jaywalking, and other "good neighbor" and safety laws I am not disturbed by double parkers or jaywalkers. I was disturbed by unit 4F and 7B's weekly round of "drunk Europeans screaming in the hallway at 3AM".

I've seen people almost die due to double parking clogging up the street. I'm sure accidents do happen from that.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by humanrebar » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:32 PM UTC

bradleyjg wrote: post #112

humanrebar wrote: post #34

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New York doesn't enforce double parking, jaywalking, and other "good neighbor" and safety laws. Why is this one special?

Interesting that the two “good neighbor” laws you picked mainly impact drivers. Perhaps the answer to your question is that almost all New Yorkers (city) are living in multiple dwelling buildings but only a smallish minority are regular drivers.

They also impact pedestrians. I've seen pedestrians almost hit due to double parking in NYC. Sometimes they are also jaywalking, but sometimes there's a crosswalk or intersection and the double parking is hurting visibility.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by jupiter90000 » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:33 PM UTC

reustle wrote: post #214

bitL wrote: post #43

AirBnB never had many listings in Japan in the first place; when I was visiting there I always went with the agencies that specialized in short-term apartment rentals; those were best for price/quality ratio if you spent at least month there. And you could even get typical traditional Japanese apartments that way near important cultural landmarks. And observing typical Japanese customs like trash collection of certai…

I've previously lived in Tokyo over a year (many shorter trips) mainly in AirBnBs. Which agencies would you recommend?

Also interested in an answer for this. I've looked up some in the past but not sure how good any of them are.

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Post by jessaustin » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

soperj wrote: post #170

StavrosK wrote: post #153

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Oh, I see. Maybe, I don't really have experience with traveling with a family.

If you have 3 children, you have to rent two hotel rooms. Also when your kids bedtime is 7:30, having 1 room with two beds just sucks.

This really depends on the family. I had 3 siblings and we traveled a lot. When we no longer all fit on the same bed, I got a folded-up blanket on the floor. Eventually my sister decided she would rather have the floor. My brothers are awful to sleep with...

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by tunap » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

charlesdm wrote: post #36

tunap wrote: post #27

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That, and the price inflation sucks. I am going to look at a former AB&B property to rent today. The ludicrous price will be discussed, if they are unwilling to negotiate, the place will likely stay empty for the summer months(AZ, in a tourist oriented corner of the valley).

Isn't that just always the case with a common tourist destination? If I can rent out 12 months at $1,000 (= $12k), vs 150 / 200 days at $150 (= $22.5-30k) then as a property owner you have a decision to make. Short term lets are more work, but more profitable. They'll likely not care it stays empty, because it's to be expected that on some dates and months it will not be rented out.

It is true. The beauty offer I have is I only want/need a place for June-Sept. Could be a win-win... if off-season rate can be agreed upon. Otherwise, when the boss doesn't have me staying in Hyatts & Hiltons, I am rambling when it's <100°F.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by jessaustin » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:36 PM UTC

vuln wrote: post #221

xapata wrote: post #196

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Oh, sure, I'd prefer a better transit system, too. But in the meantime, I'd rather have more choice than less. Uber costs less than a taxi, so this is giving poor(er) people more choice.

Until the VC money runs out and the poor(er) have zero choice. Those people chose to give their money to Lyft / Uber instead of supporting their local public transit. Fast forward through Uber/Lyft's 'disruption' the local public transit shuts down due to lack of funds for maintenance, upgrades, etc. The public transportation ridership will be at an all time low, so it would be very hard to get tax payers to shoulder…

I also prefer more robust public transit, but I know of no community who decided against a public transit project because Uber was meeting their needs.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by pjc50 » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 7:45 PM UTC

DINKDINK wrote: post #216

pjc50 wrote: post #81

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qv the other thread on meaningless work, sometimes people find value in living in a city and neighborhood that isn't completely focused on extracting the maximum economic value at any cost.

>people find value in living in a city and neighborhood that isn't completely focused on extracting the maximum economic value at any cost. More power to them. But why should we use violence means against peaceful people?

What does violence have to do with any of this, unless some of the noise-related altercations are getting out of hand?