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Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by krapp »

jorvi wrote: post #11
lovemenot wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. There's effectively never been Uber or similar in Japan either. People just respect regulations and they generally do work very well.

I'm European, and in general I like (well thought out) regulations, but in the case of the taxi industry Uber is actually not a bad guy but a huge blessing. In a lot of countries (80%+) taxi drivers are rude, try to price gouge, try to scam you or try to take longer routes. Uber takes all of this away. The rating system ensures drivers are polite. The estimate € (plus route tracking) ensures they don't take the sceni…

>In a lot of countries (80%+) taxi drivers are rude, try to price gouge, try to scam you or try to take longer routes.

Made up percentages don't count as credible data, unless you can cite the objective and peer-reviewed analysis that demonstrates that over 80% of taxi drivers are "rude, try to price gouge, try to scam you or try to take longer routes," you're just trying to disguise your opinion as fact.

Which is fine, but just say what you mean - that you imagine most taxi drivers in most countries are probably rude.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by 3pt14159 »

John_KZ wrote: post #4

That's a great example that clearly demonstrates that local law can be enforced, even on companies like AirBnb. I hear lots of arguments on "You can't enforce the ban", but it's simpler than ever to just do that.

If the government can order the service they can always fine the provisioner.

Uber tried their shit with Quebec, then two drivers had their cars impounded and that was the end of that.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by fredley »

pjc50 wrote: post #16

Similar discussions are ongoing in lots of cities. In Edinburgh they're trying to pre-empt this a bit with voluntary restrictions: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-4... AirBnb creates "bad neighbours" by putting lots of tourists, some of whom behave badly, in formerly residential locations. It creates a whole new set of absentee landlords. If it were restricted to renting out places where th…

This is the approach taken in London: Anyone can AirBnB their property, but only for 90 days a year, unless you have special permission. This prevents people buying up/renting flats just to let them out on AirBnB and putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by repomies6999 »

badminton1 wrote: post #20
bradleyjg wrote: post #2

Maybe now they can start complying with New York law.

In Japan, citizens will punish you if you don't respect their law (e.g.: by not using your service). One of the reasons of why Uber had a hard time in there initially.

Hmm, I used uber in japan when I was traveling there and it worked quite well. What kind of problems were they having?

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Post by andy_ppp »

fredley wrote: post #23
pjc50 wrote: post #16

Similar discussions are ongoing in lots of cities. In Edinburgh they're trying to pre-empt this a bit with voluntary restrictions: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-4... AirBnb creates "bad neighbours" by putting lots of tourists, some of whom behave badly, in formerly residential locations. It creates a whole new set of absentee landlords. If it were restricted to renting out places where th…

This is the approach taken in London: Anyone can AirBnB their property, but only for 90 days a year, unless you have special permission. This prevents people buying up/renting flats just to let them out on AirBnB and putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

Isn’t this just ignored largely?

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by poooogles »

andy_ppp wrote: post #25
fredley wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the approach taken in London: Anyone can AirBnB their property, but only for 90 days a year, unless you have special permission. This prevents people buying up/renting flats just to let them out on AirBnB and putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

Isn’t this just ignored largely?

Based upon my neighbours; yes completely. Anecdata is anecdata however...

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by tunap »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #19
charlesdm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just comply with the laws? I have a friend who did this, but in tourist-y cities this was turning into situations where a person would rent out 10 apartments at $2k/mo and rent them on at $300 a night. A great business, but if you live in a block with constant travellers then I guess it can get super annoying fast.

Also pretty annoying when you can't find a place to rent, because the apartments start getting taken over by "enterpreneurs" such as your friend.

That, and the price inflation sucks. I am going to look at a former AB&B property to rent today. The ludicrous price will be discussed, if they are unwilling to negotiate, the place will likely stay empty for the summer months(AZ, in a tourist oriented corner of the valley).

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by Razengan »

This Redditor offers one plausible cause/reason [0]:

> This may not be a popular opinion here but I totally understand the concern. There had been a huge increase in transient international visitors being introduced to residential areas that previously did not have to deal with that. Having a constant stream of strangers coming and going in your building is not something many residents feel comfortable with.

Also: > Also I just want to be sure to note to people: THESE LAWS APPLY TO ALL SHORT TERM RENTALS AND ARE NOT JUST FOR AIRBNB.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/JapanTravel/comments/8os3mv/minpaku...

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by fredley »

andy_ppp wrote: post #25
fredley wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the approach taken in London: Anyone can AirBnB their property, but only for 90 days a year, unless you have special permission. This prevents people buying up/renting flats just to let them out on AirBnB and putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

Isn’t this just ignored largely?

AFAIK the limit is on AirBnB's site directly. Your account is limited until you provide documents from the council. I don't know to what extent people are forging these documents though.
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