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Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by Anderkent »

Xylakant wrote: post #95
iandanforth wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nimbyism at its best.

We had an illegal AirBNB in our building in Berlin. Some guests were ill-behaved and partied all night. The person renting the flat was unavailable. You had no recourse short of calling the police. I’d be very much fine with a hotel or an old-fashioned BnB in the building where staff or a responsible person is available to take care of and discipline misbehaving guests. You can call that NIMBYism, but yeah, no unregu…

So why not call the police?

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Post by bradleyjg »

humanrebar wrote: post #34
bradleyjg wrote: post #2

Maybe now they can start complying with New York law.

New York doesn't enforce double parking, jaywalking, and other "good neighbor" and safety laws. Why is this one special?

Interesting that the two “good neighbor” laws you picked mainly impact drivers. Perhaps the answer to your question is that almost all New Yorkers (city) are living in multiple dwelling buildings but only a smallish minority are regular drivers.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by rspeer »

iandanforth wrote: post #86
tnolet wrote: post #64

In Amsterdam they already set the limit of allowed rental days per year to 30. Just last month the new city council announced they will completely forbid AirBnB in certain neighbourhoods. As someone who studied and worked most of his life in Amsterdam I welcome these measures a lot.

Nimbyism at its best.

How do you figure? I'm a YIMBY and I think that AirBNB should absolutely be regulated. Regulating it properly will ease the insane price pressure at least a bit, and failing to regulate it just feeds into NIMBY arguments.

I'm a YIMBY because people need homes where there are jobs, not because I think all problems are solved by the free market. A home is a fundamental human need. A hotel isn't.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by pavel_lishin »

icebraining wrote: post #110
pavel_lishin wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no way to not make this sound insulting, but do you know the actual work that a landlord has to do?

I should hope so, since I'm one. We own two apartments which we rent out, one of them on AirBnB, and handling the reservations, receiving the guests, giving them tips on how to navigate the city, constantly cleaning and replacing linen, etc, is way more time consuming than the occasional maintenance we do on the other apt, which is rented long-term. Why? What am I missing?

Hm, I guess your AirBNB is pretty nice, and our building is pretty shitty - we've had to have our building's super come in at least once a month to fix this or that - pipe making awful racket, door doesn't close or latch, lock needs to be replaced, neighbors making too much noise (although sadly, that problem wasn't fixed by the super with a wrench.)

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by StavrosK »

Fede_V wrote: post #102

I think this is an interesting and unintended consequence of AirBnB not investing nearly on filtering their users. AirBnB obviously was interested in getting their product used by as many people as people (growth at all costs) - but this had the effect of getting a lot of young, cost conscious people to take holidays in area that were traditionally residential. While most AirBnB renters are polite and respectful, eno…

No, sorry. AirBnB is creating immense problems in tourist destinations, to the point where people in major cities in Greece (and other countries) are having trouble finding affordable permanent housing.

Barcelona and Rome are overrun with tourists, and it's killing the cities. AirBnB should just go away, the market worked very well before it, even if things were a bit more expensive.

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Post by piyh »

StavrosK wrote: post #115
Fede_V wrote: post #102

I think this is an interesting and unintended consequence of AirBnB not investing nearly on filtering their users. AirBnB obviously was interested in getting their product used by as many people as people (growth at all costs) - but this had the effect of getting a lot of young, cost conscious people to take holidays in area that were traditionally residential. While most AirBnB renters are polite and respectful, eno…

No, sorry. AirBnB is creating immense problems in tourist destinations, to the point where people in major cities in Greece (and other countries) are having trouble finding affordable permanent housing. Barcelona and Rome are overrun with tourists, and it's killing the cities. AirBnB should just go away, the market worked very well before it, even if things were a bit more expensive.

Let's go back to taxis while we're at it.

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Post by soperj »

StavrosK wrote: post #115
Fede_V wrote: post #102

I think this is an interesting and unintended consequence of AirBnB not investing nearly on filtering their users. AirBnB obviously was interested in getting their product used by as many people as people (growth at all costs) - but this had the effect of getting a lot of young, cost conscious people to take holidays in area that were traditionally residential. While most AirBnB renters are polite and respectful, eno…

No, sorry. AirBnB is creating immense problems in tourist destinations, to the point where people in major cities in Greece (and other countries) are having trouble finding affordable permanent housing. Barcelona and Rome are overrun with tourists, and it's killing the cities. AirBnB should just go away, the market worked very well before it, even if things were a bit more expensive.

Depends on who you are. It worked terribly for people with young families or families that were over 4 people.

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Post by StavrosK »

piyh wrote: post #116
StavrosK wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, sorry. AirBnB is creating immense problems in tourist destinations, to the point where people in major cities in Greece (and other countries) are having trouble finding affordable permanent housing. Barcelona and Rome are overrun with tourists, and it's killing the cities. AirBnB should just go away, the market worked very well before it, even if things were a bit more expensive.

Let's go back to taxis while we're at it.

Taxis are a problem, but Uber is not the solution.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by StavrosK »

soperj wrote: post #117
StavrosK wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, sorry. AirBnB is creating immense problems in tourist destinations, to the point where people in major cities in Greece (and other countries) are having trouble finding affordable permanent housing. Barcelona and Rome are overrun with tourists, and it's killing the cities. AirBnB should just go away, the market worked very well before it, even if things were a bit more expensive.

Depends on who you are. It worked terribly for people with young families or families that were over 4 people.

Why? Can those families find housing more easily?

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Post by jfim »

wooter wrote: post #76
3pt14159 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the government can order the service they can always fine the provisioner. Uber tried their shit with Quebec, then two drivers had their cars impounded and that was the end of that.

foolish and regressive. enjoy higher DUI rates, less service and less availability. for what its worth, i've been taking uber and lyft in quebec for years.

> for what its worth, i've been taking uber and lyft in quebec for years

Lyft doesn't operate in Canada outside of Ontario. They added Ottawa as their second city in Canada earlier this year (https://blog.lyft.com/posts/coming-to-ottawa).

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