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Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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I'm European, and in general I like (well thought out) regulations, but in the case of the taxi industry Uber is actually not a bad guy but a huge blessing. In a lot of countries (80%+) taxi drivers are rude, try to price gouge, try to scam you or try to take longer routes. Uber takes all of this away. The rating system ensures drivers are polite. The estimate € (plus route tracking) ensures they don't take the sceni…

>In a lot of countries (80%+) taxi drivers are rude, try to price gouge, try to scam you or try to take longer routes. Made up percentages don't count as credible data, unless you can cite the objective and peer-reviewed analysis that demonstrates that over 80% of taxi drivers are "rude, try to price gouge, try to scam you or try to take longer routes," you're just trying to disguise your opinion as fact. Which is fi…

> Made up percentages don't count as credible data, unless you can cite the objective and peer-reviewed analysis that demonstrates that over 80% of taxi drivers are "rude, try to price gouge, try to scam you or try to take longer routes," you're just trying to disguise your opinion as fact.

There is little to no such data, but we can extrapolate from two things: 1. Uber, Lyft and co. would never have grown globally at such an astronomical rate (and eaten the taxi branch its lunch) if there wasn't a large demand for a 'clean' taxi experience, and 2. Wether you are aware of it or not, taxis and their drivers are one of the most oft complained about branches of industry. Seriously, ask 100 random people who have travelled internationally about their taxi experiences, and I guarantee you a large contingent will mention the same pain points I did.

On a sidenote, I did not 'try to disguise your opinion as fact'. Its a normal figure of speech, when you (and others) experience almost nothing but bad experiences with something you present it as 70/80/90% or 3/4 or 4/5th or whatever is 'bad'. Trying to shut that down with a quasi-strawman adds absolutely nothing to the discussion, except for appearing pedantic or combative.

> Which is fine, but just say what you mean - that you imagine most taxi drivers in most countries are probably rude.

Sans the imagine, considering I've traveled most of Europe, a lot of Asia, and a little bit of North America. Add in experiences from friends who have also been to those places and/or S. America, Australia, etc., then yeah.. a pattern starts to make itself clear.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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So how many of us now have a better idea on how to spend 48 hours in Chicago as a result of the article promo? And who else thinks the deep dish pizza from Malnati's looks more like a quiche? Either way, I now have Adventures in Babysitting on my watchlist.

Re: Nearly 80% of Japan’s Airbnbs removed in response to new home-share law

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In Amsterdam they already set the limit of allowed rental days per year to 30. Just last month the new city council announced they will completely forbid AirBnB in certain neighbourhoods. As someone who studied and worked most of his life in Amsterdam I welcome these measures a lot.

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This is the approach taken in London: Anyone can AirBnB their property, but only for 90 days a year, unless you have special permission. This prevents people buying up/renting flats just to let them out on AirBnB and putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

Isn’t this just ignored largely?

In re enforcement, https://twitter.com/patio11/status/1005093595005665285

"I have mixed feelings about the Japanese Airbnb news. On the one hand: does it seem like the optimal regulation? Probably not. On the other hand: my condo’s live-in supervisor had to update their “We will call police if we spot illegal tenants” policy with “Note: Patrick isn’t”"

(patio11 is that rare thing, a Western permanent resident of Japan, and has lots of tweets on the subject of how Japan combines legendary, genuine politeness with a system that excludes non-Japanese)

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Airbnb’s statement is disingenuous. They state the rule clearly then claim surprise it’s being enforced: > hosts are required to register their listing and display a license number on their listing page by June 15th in order to stay active on our platform... > Unfortunately, the Japanese government issued a sudden announcement on June 1st instructing any host without a license number to cancel upcoming reservations t…

How so? If the rule was applicable from June 15th, it is surprising that it's being enforced before that date, no?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the approach taken in London: Anyone can AirBnB their property, but only for 90 days a year, unless you have special permission. This prevents people buying up/renting flats just to let them out on AirBnB and putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

That seems reasonable. The social good of AirBnB is lowering the barrier to increase property utilization. Classifying people into commercial and "sometimes" renters makes sense. If you want your business to be bigger, comply with more regulations.

> increase property utilization

This implies that rent should rise to meet nightly AirBnb rates, which has all sorts of implications ..

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Airbnb’s statement is disingenuous. They state the rule clearly then claim surprise it’s being enforced: > hosts are required to register their listing and display a license number on their listing page by June 15th in order to stay active on our platform... > Unfortunately, the Japanese government issued a sudden announcement on June 1st instructing any host without a license number to cancel upcoming reservations t…

How so? If the rule was applicable from June 15th, it is surprising that it's being enforced before that date, no?

The authorities would know if a flood of license approvals about to happen before the 15th. But surely there’s not, and on the 15th these units become illegal. Two weeks notice seems much more fair to travelers than waiting till the 15th and cancelling.

Rules are followed in Japan. Allowing a grace period for unlicensed rentals was really fair of them.

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Similar discussions are ongoing in lots of cities. In Edinburgh they're trying to pre-empt this a bit with voluntary restrictions: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-4... AirBnb creates "bad neighbours" by putting lots of tourists, some of whom behave badly, in formerly residential locations. It creates a whole new set of absentee landlords. If it were restricted to renting out places where th…

This is the approach taken in London: Anyone can AirBnB their property, but only for 90 days a year, unless you have special permission. This prevents people buying up/renting flats just to let them out on AirBnB and putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

>putting pressure on the already cripplingly bad housing situation.

No amount of demand suppression will ever fix a supply issue. “We’re better off not building up housing infrastructure subsidized by short term leases and just trying to suppress any demand that changes the market clearing price”

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