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Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by DuskStar »

drdeca wrote: post #39
blhack wrote: post #9

"Hey kid: did you know that your very being is offensive and actually downright violent towards me and there is nothing you can do about it because it literally has to do with a fundamental aspect of who you are." Absolutely shocking that suicide is up.

Unless there is an /increase/ in how much people are being told something analogous/similar to that, I'm not sure how that would explain an /increase/ in the rate. Is there a reason you would expect the harm from things of that sort to have increased as of late?

I don't think it would be controversial to say that the amount of people saying that to/about white males has gone up recently.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by runatmebud »

blhack wrote: post #9

"Hey kid: did you know that your very being is offensive and actually downright violent towards me and there is nothing you can do about it because it literally has to do with a fundamental aspect of who you are." Absolutely shocking that suicide is up.

Can you clarify this quotation? What is the source, who is speaking, to whom are they speaking?

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by ars »

drdeca wrote: post #39
blhack wrote: post #9

"Hey kid: did you know that your very being is offensive and actually downright violent towards me and there is nothing you can do about it because it literally has to do with a fundamental aspect of who you are." Absolutely shocking that suicide is up.

Unless there is an /increase/ in how much people are being told something analogous/similar to that, I'm not sure how that would explain an /increase/ in the rate. Is there a reason you would expect the harm from things of that sort to have increased as of late?

Are you kidding? Social pressure to make people feel worthless if you don't toe the line on liberal issues has absolutely skyrocketed.

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by stnmtn »

adamnemecek wrote: post #43

The accelerationism of the world is really taking it's toll. I feel like the political and economical system is, idk, a result of over-application of certain tenets that might have been justified in the past but are increasingly less valid but certain forces are clinging to them because these tenets are all they have. It's not just the US, the world feels like such a blur. Very important and fucked up things are happ…

Try reading Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher, from what you just said it sounds like you might really like it. He covers a lot of the themes you're talking about in a really approachable way

As for what other conception of states can exist, socialism is pretty cool I think

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by stnmtn »

DannyB2 wrote: post #33
49531 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like I am missing context.

Basically one kid (eg, the "bully") says to another kid (eg, the "victim") that the victim's mere existence is deeply offensive to the bully. Hope that helps.

So, in this analogy, white people are the victims, and minorities are the bullies?

I guess if you strip all historical context out of the racial issues, ignore current inequalities, and just focus on what people on Tumblr are saying, I guess you could come to that conclusion, but you have to intentionally avoid a lot of stuff to reach that

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by [deleted] »

DuskStar wrote: post #51
drdeca wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless there is an /increase/ in how much people are being told something analogous/similar to that, I'm not sure how that would explain an /increase/ in the rate. Is there a reason you would expect the harm from things of that sort to have increased as of late?

I don't think it would be controversial to say that the amount of people saying that to/about white males has gone up recently.

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Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by doppelganger27 »

User23 wrote: post #17
DannyB2 wrote: post #10

THIS IS NOT a politically motivated post. Compare the map in TFA with this map, which I trivially Googled: http://news.gallup.com/poll/203117/gop-maintains-edge-state-... It's not a perfect correlation, but to my untrained eye, looking at both maps, it seems to me that red (eg, Republican) states appear to correlate closely with higher suicide states. But please judge and compare the maps for yourself and form your o…

There is a running joke that all geographical heat maps are palette swapped demographic maps.

https://xkcd.com/1138/

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by sudomake »

minikites wrote: post #35

Reducing firearm ownership would reduce suicides: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/wonkblog/su... The common response is that "people will just find another way" but that's not supported by evidence. >“Anything that builds in delay is working in your favor because that fever-pitch time when you’re actually willing to swallow the poison or pull the trigger is often fairly narrow,” said Cathy Barber, wh…

I've heard that no one attempts suicide twice, but guns make it more likely that their first attempt succeeds

Re: Suicide rising across the US

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Post by cmpb »

User23 wrote: post #2

The article avoids pointing out the obvious, but the map makes it clear this rise is predominantly among white Americans.

And specifically (and overwhelmingly) males. My own experience would point anecdotally toward it as well, as the four people whom I knew personally who died by suicide were white male Americans.
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