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Suicide rising across the US
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like I am missing context.
Basically one kid (eg, the "bully") says to another kid (eg, the "victim") that the victim's mere existence is deeply offensive to the bully. Hope that helps.
Still missing context. Are schoolyard bullies actually doing this to other kids? Or are you talking about something else? Can you speak plainly and not use analogies?
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#43The accelerationism of the world is really taking it's toll. I feel like the political and economical system is, idk, a result of over-application of certain tenets that might have been justified in the past but are increasingly less valid but certain forces are clinging to them because these tenets are all they have.
It's not just the US, the world feels like such a blur. Very important and fucked up things are happening multiple times daily. Things that don't affect me but a lot of times actually really do. Some thousand year old struggles seem to be getting kicked into the internet age and as a result the whole world is getting involved in local conflicts and is forced to take sides.
I legit feel as if some sort of new conception of government, nations, states, rights, is really needed. I don't know what but I'm all ears.
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#44What are they doing right in Nevada?
The graph is only showing changes in suicide rates. Perhaps Nevada's was already high?
Nevada looks to be in the top 10 states by suicide rate.
Comparing to this map is interesting: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-mortality/...
Looking at the map from the article, you might think that NY, IL, WI, OR and WA are all in the same boat, but suicide rate in NY is half that in OR.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://xkcd.com/552/
First, one would establish that there is actually a correlation. If so, then is there a causation? (eg, does being in a red state make one suicidal, or does being suicidal affect one's political views) That seems a bit of a stretch. But if a causation CAN be established, then is there anything that can be done to help people?
You forgot the third option: are both caused by a third independent variable.
For instance, economic situation could influence both political views and mental health.
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#46The article avoids pointing out the obvious, but the map makes it clear this rise is predominantly among white Americans.
The map absolutely does not make that clear. It could equally be the case that minorities are dying by suicide more in communities where they are totally engulfed by white folks (or folks of any other characteristic that matches the map distribution).
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#47The article avoids pointing out the obvious, but the map makes it clear this rise is predominantly among white Americans.
Did they correct for any confounding variables? Old people are more likely to kill themselves and US has an aging population. Edit: Also, old people in the USA are more likely to be white.
I don't have time to follow the links and dig into the data quality but a recent SSC post[0] claims "Blacks and Hispanics have only about half the suicide rate of whites", which seems pretty strong to be accounted for by average age differences.
[0]http://slatestarcodex.com/2018/05/31/in-search-of-missing-us...
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#48"Hey kid: did you know that your very being is offensive and actually downright violent towards me and there is nothing you can do about it because it literally has to do with a fundamental aspect of who you are." Absolutely shocking that suicide is up.
Unless there is an /increase/ in how much people are being told something analogous/similar to that, I'm not sure how that would explain an /increase/ in the rate. Is there a reason you would expect the harm from things of that sort to have increased as of late?
Crybullying against $insertGroupYouDon'tLike has gained popularity over the past decade, at the very least from "not a concept" to extant.
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#49The article avoids pointing out the obvious, but the map makes it clear this rise is predominantly among white Americans.
Clustered in the central US states, primarily due to relationship issues.
It's not really surprising that middle-aged men who have been raked over the coals in a divorce and left with a hole they'll never get out of, would opt for an end to the pain.
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#50"Hey kid: did you know that your very being is offensive and actually downright violent towards me and there is nothing you can do about it because it literally has to do with a fundamental aspect of who you are." Absolutely shocking that suicide is up.
Strawman aside, the current political climate is certainly growing more hostile and polarized as the societal pendulum swings away. It's probably not a coincidence that most who commit suicide are male and the worst of it are in predominately white states which also just so happen to have lagging economic growth.