So in other words, Zuckerberg lied.
Facebook confirms data sharing with Chinese companies
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I just dont use FB anymore. I get FB messages, but I dont check my feed. Occasionally I get event invites, but I check that every few weeks or month. I dont want to act like I'm 'cutting edge', but was on gamefaqs when it was cool, FB in 2009, reddit in 2010. I dont use facebook anymore, we moved to snapchat and niche fourms.
You said you don’t want to act like you’re cutting edge which is probably good, but the years you listed for Facebook and Reddit aren’t that early for those platforms.
I was on reddit back when people were liberal on the website.
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>a user is responsible for whom they give their username and password to. In 2009, when I signed up for facebook, I was signing up for facebook. Not sharing with political groups and enterprises. No one reads ToS and at that point, it should be nullified. Everyone loses their FB accounts because YOU didnt read the ToS. Facebook loses their business because they lied about people reading and accepting their ToS. Its i…
You're blaming facebook because people don't read ToS? And then you try to tell people to be reasonable? That's like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?
Hey do you read the ToS?
Before you get too excited about legal jargon, no one reads the ToS. There was some study saying it would take years of your life to read it, let alone try to understand it.
ToS that are unreadable should be thrown out in court.
Everyone, including facebook knows that these are not read.
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"you have control over ... how you share it". You do not have control over how Facebook shares it.
> [...] and you have complete control over who sees it and [...] If you have complete control over who sees it, that should mean that no one else has any control over it...
>> [...] and you have complete control over who sees it and [...]
> If you have complete control over who sees it, that should mean that no one else has any control over it...
Actually that quote is false: the Facebook algorithm has almost complete control over who actually sees your content.
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#75How annoying Reuters included ads that redirect on mobile to pages informing me about viruses on my iPhone and an incredible huge lottery win. Too bad, it’s impossible to read the article on my phone. edit: mobile
I think this could be your network operator. Happens quite often to me on 3g in Germany, never when using wifi.
Can that happen on an https page?
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#76> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...
So, a question to developers reading this: would you be happy to work alongside a person who participated in the development of this system?
Trick question. Typically, when assigned tasks at work, one doesn't have the forbearance or clairvoyance to asses the moral implications of the task.
The fairer question to ask is if the strategy team pitching such work/product understood the moral implication of the work.
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You're blaming facebook because people don't read ToS? And then you try to tell people to be reasonable? That's like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?
In many countries, like Germany, surprising provisions in consumer terms of service are unenforceable for exactly this reason (and other reasons). In my opinion, it's American over-adherence to legal formalism to the benefit of powerful companies and the detriment of consumers that is unreasonable, not the German approach. And I say this as an American myself.
USA has very similar laws and legal tradition about what makes a contract valid.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> [...] and you have complete control over who sees it and [...] If you have complete control over who sees it, that should mean that no one else has any control over it...
>> [...] and you have complete control over who sees it and [...] > If you have complete control over who sees it, that should mean that no one else has any control over it... Actually that quote is false: the Facebook algorithm has almost complete control over who actually sees your content.
I'm just trying to say what it means since there appear to be some confusion...
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In contexts like this Chinese is often short for Chinese communist. But if that was elaborated then you would accuse people of McCarthyism and being overly hysterical about communism.
Do you mean "often short for China the country"? Because otherwise it does sound pretty weird for you to say "Chinese communist".
> Do you mean "often short for China the country"?
No. You will see people aren't bothered by Taiwan or other far eastern countries, perhaps there's a reason.
> pretty weird
Maybe English is a weird language. I'm esl so I shouldn't be teaching you.. The reason people don't spell it out is because it is shorter, seems more polite and are afraid of looking like this[0].
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
In many countries, like Germany, surprising provisions in consumer terms of service are unenforceable for exactly this reason (and other reasons). In my opinion, it's American over-adherence to legal formalism to the benefit of powerful companies and the detriment of consumers that is unreasonable, not the German approach. And I say this as an American myself.
USA has very similar laws and legal tradition about what makes a contract valid.
The German (civil law) and US (common law) legal traditions are pretty disparate, including their approaches to contract law - but in this case the difference is due to consumer protection rules in Germany and Europe, not anything longstanding about either tradition.