> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...
So, a question to developers reading this: would you be happy to work alongside a person who participated in the development of this system?
Depends entirely on how they feel and act about it. If they were pushing to make my company the next big surveillance org then yeah. Otherwise I probably wouldn't even think twice about it.
I pretty much disagree. how exactly would that work? more regulation? so people just click though more yep, it's creepy but I don't care buttons. charge them as a monopoly? when you have google and apple?
I just dont use FB anymore. I get FB messages, but I dont check my feed. Occasionally I get event invites, but I check that every few weeks or month. I dont want to act like I'm 'cutting edge', but was on gamefaqs when it was cool, FB in 2009, reddit in 2010. I dont use facebook anymore, we moved to snapchat and niche fourms.
You said you don’t want to act like you’re cutting edge which is probably good, but the years you listed for Facebook and Reddit aren’t that early for those platforms.
Exactly. All the issues these reporters are up in arms about would still be a problem if Facebook gave these companies access to their regular API instead of a specialized one. In the end, a user is responsible for whom they give their username and password to. That includes typing it into an app. I hope we can redirect the publicity around this issue to scrutinizing the security of software, operating systems, and h…
>a user is responsible for whom they give their username and password to. In 2009, when I signed up for facebook, I was signing up for facebook. Not sharing with political groups and enterprises. No one reads ToS and at that point, it should be nullified. Everyone loses their FB accounts because YOU didnt read the ToS. Facebook loses their business because they lied about people reading and accepting their ToS. Its i…
You're blaming facebook because people don't read ToS?
And then you try to tell people to be reasonable? That's like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?
> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...
I agree. Telling users they own their data and therefor have complete control over it is, at best, a misunderstanding of what we humans have control over and at worst insinuating that own=control to make the user think they are right.
> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...
So, a question to developers reading this: would you be happy to work alongside a person who participated in the development of this system?
> “Every piece of content that you share on Facebook, you own and you have complete control over who sees it and how you share it, and you can remove it at any time,” This sentence has been bothering me because it feels like his lawyers wrote it. It's specifically worded to not include issues like this one. Ref: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/article/Zuckerbe...
So, a question to developers reading this: would you be happy to work alongside a person who participated in the development of this system?
>a user is responsible for whom they give their username and password to. In 2009, when I signed up for facebook, I was signing up for facebook. Not sharing with political groups and enterprises. No one reads ToS and at that point, it should be nullified. Everyone loses their FB accounts because YOU didnt read the ToS. Facebook loses their business because they lied about people reading and accepting their ToS. Its i…
You're blaming facebook because people don't read ToS? And then you try to tell people to be reasonable? That's like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?
In many countries, like Germany, surprising provisions in consumer terms of service are unenforceable for exactly this reason (and other reasons).
In my opinion, it's American over-adherence to legal formalism to the benefit of powerful companies and the detriment of consumers that is unreasonable, not the German approach. And I say this as an American myself.
let's try to replace one word: "Facebook confirms data sharing with Jewish companies". You see what kind of ideology this is spreading? Being Chinese is bad?
This is literally the dumbest statement I've ever read on this website
Exactly. All the issues these reporters are up in arms about would still be a problem if Facebook gave these companies access to their regular API instead of a specialized one. In the end, a user is responsible for whom they give their username and password to. That includes typing it into an app. I hope we can redirect the publicity around this issue to scrutinizing the security of software, operating systems, and h…
>a user is responsible for whom they give their username and password to. In 2009, when I signed up for facebook, I was signing up for facebook. Not sharing with political groups and enterprises. No one reads ToS and at that point, it should be nullified. Everyone loses their FB accounts because YOU didnt read the ToS. Facebook loses their business because they lied about people reading and accepting their ToS. Its i…
I pretty much agree with your points, but I don't see the relationship to this topic. It seems possible that you have misunderstood what these news stories are about (or equally possible that I have). This story is about Facebook giving "privileged API access" to certain companies. That means that when users give their login credentials to those companies, they can access certain data about the users in certain ways. However, as I said above, if the user gives those companies login credentials, the user is already putting a frighteningly large amount of trust in that third party. There needs to be much more awareness of this.