I can’t wait for dark mode. Awesome
Apple introduces macOS Mojave
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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#532Earlier quoted context omitted.
The differences are more in implementation than anything else: - AppKit isn't layer-backed by default, requiring you to handle this. Something as simple as setting the background color for an NSView is far more of a ritual than it is for a UIView. - NSColor/NSImage under the hood are different than UIColor and UIImage. - NSTableView and NSCollectionView have big differences (NSCollectionView is more subtle, I should…
"Something as simple as setting the background color for an NSView is far more of a ritual than it is for a UIView." Or you just use an NSBox as the rearmost subview of the NSView, and set its fill color.
I suspect that is exactly the kind of ritual he was talking about.
Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#533Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Something as simple as setting the background color for an NSView is far more of a ritual than it is for a UIView." Or you just use an NSBox as the rearmost subview of the NSView, and set its fill color.
I suspect that is exactly the kind of ritual he was talking about.
Yuuuuup.
Cocoa developers tend to think it's all very apparent though. Was actually counting down until a comment like that appeared. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#534Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hope significant are the differences between cocoa and uikit? I don't have any experience besides some light source browsing and it seemed the big difference is the NS to UI prefix change. Anyone care to summarize for the unenlightened?
The differences are more in implementation than anything else: - AppKit isn't layer-backed by default, requiring you to handle this. Something as simple as setting the background color for an NSView is far more of a ritual than it is for a UIView. - NSColor/NSImage under the hood are different than UIColor and UIImage. - NSTableView and NSCollectionView have big differences (NSCollectionView is more subtle, I should…
Also, just to follow up on my original comment... from what I saw over on Twitter, 10.14 finally implicitly layer-backs apps by default, so the first point becomes much less of a nuisance than it used to be. Apps have to be linked against 10.4, mind you, but yeah.
Props to Apple for finally fixing it.
Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
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It's amazing that so many bright minds are wasting time on *oji.
Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.
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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#536The complaints here about how the new macOS does not have anything exciting or interesting is weird. I thought the best thing about the new macOS (and iOS) is that it's supposed to be Apple focusing on stability, rather than new features. Given all the bad things that have happened with macOS in the past year, I thought this was going to be appreciated. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software...
High Sierra didn't have much notable or interesting either, and it proved to be the least stable release in a while by a damn sight. Lately it seems like Apple has downshifted in competence all-around (at least on the Mac). I'll believe evidence to the contrary when I see it — not sooner. I know that makes me seem like an HN Apple hater. And it pains me to say that. I've been a Mac fan since the mid-90s. I've tried t…
I'll second that it's the least stable. It broke a whole load of stuff I needed for work. I eventually fixed it up (or found kludgy workarounds...) but I definitely resent encountering that immediately after updating.
Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#537Earlier quoted context omitted.
High Sierra didn't have much notable or interesting either, and it proved to be the least stable release in a while by a damn sight. Lately it seems like Apple has downshifted in competence all-around (at least on the Mac). I'll believe evidence to the contrary when I see it — not sooner. I know that makes me seem like an HN Apple hater. And it pains me to say that. I've been a Mac fan since the mid-90s. I've tried t…
I would not consider a brand new file system to not be notable. Maybe for average consumers it wouldn't matter much, but for us, we probably should appreciate how big an endeavour a new file system is.
I certainly appreciated it when I went to install the beta this afternoon. Took two seconds to add a volume, as opposed to many minutes (and the risk of data loss) partitioning in the old days.
Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#538WWDC 2018, from underwhelming to boring. I will lose my mind if i hear *oji one more time. Will they ever stop with this nonsense? Favicons in Safari? It took them 6 years for the browser to remember the zoom setting per site, now we have the luxury of having favicons.
It's amazing that so many bright minds are wasting time on *oji.
There is an eye opening, amazing discussion about emojis going on here. But, like really aren't we just all accepting of the nuances of a cartoon based language? I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but that is reality. We're sending forest gump like 'shit happens' cartoons to one another.
Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#539The complaints here about how the new macOS does not have anything exciting or interesting is weird. I thought the best thing about the new macOS (and iOS) is that it's supposed to be Apple focusing on stability, rather than new features. Given all the bad things that have happened with macOS in the past year, I thought this was going to be appreciated. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software...
So. The most important feature of this new release "designed for pros" that gets top placement on the announcement page is ... dark mode. The second is stacks. The third is the ports of iOS apps (including the long overdue Home).
I find it very hard to be excited about a yet another "major" release that doesn't even qualify as a minor version bump.
Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave
#540Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Something as simple as setting the background color for an NSView is far more of a ritual than it is for a UIView." Or you just use an NSBox as the rearmost subview of the NSView, and set its fill color.
I suspect that is exactly the kind of ritual he was talking about.
Not much of a ritual, really. Couple lines of code. Just a common case of using a UI widget in a way that isn't really done on UIKit.