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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Wow, they are DEPRECATING OpenGL from both macOS and iOS: https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/ This is in addition to last year's announcement that "macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS to run 32bit apps without compromise " I wonder if we will soon see a new lineage of Macbooks fitted with Apple-specific arm64 chips. The most scary thought is if UIKit-on-macOS starts requiring Developer ID entitlem…

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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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post #33

Wow, they are DEPRECATING OpenGL from both macOS and iOS: https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/ This is in addition to last year's announcement that "macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS to run 32bit apps without compromise " I wonder if we will soon see a new lineage of Macbooks fitted with Apple-specific arm64 chips. The most scary thought is if UIKit-on-macOS starts requiring Developer ID entitlem…

Nice marketing campaign here a couple years ago. https://developer.apple.com/opencl/ Make up your fucking minds. Developers aren't hamsters. I now declare MacOS to be deprecated, if that's how it's going to be.

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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Let me put it another way: what’s the point of these newfangled moving pictures when we already have books?

> Let me put it another way: what’s the point of these newfangled moving pictures when we already have books? Yeah, figured that would be trotted out at some point. That's a fine sounding argument, but do you really feel emoji's are on the same level as the advent of video? I don't believe you do. At some point you have to take a look at the specific thing you're talking about and get down out of the clouds. I have y…

Why are you so intent on invalidating other people when they say that emoji help them communicate?

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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> I have no idea what concept is even meant to be communicated by such an absurd thing Depends on context. If we were discussing someone, it might signal criticism or a desire to party. The fact that it cannot compress losslessly into words is the whole point.

> it might signal criticism or a desire to party I'd like to see examples of both of these. Specifically how the T-Rex plays a role because, if you take the T-Rex out, we're back to something I can easily convey in ascii.

> if you take the T-Rex out, we're back to something I can easily convey in ascii

May I ask if you read fiction in more than one language? There are constructions even in those close to English which I find impossible to accurately translate in a way that preserves the delight of the interaction between their phrasing and underlying meaning.

For T-Rex, two examples:

"I drank too much at the Christmas party.

Not as much as Bob. He puked in the restaurant sink before appetizers were served.

[Dancing eye-rolling T-Rex]"

--or--

"Let's go.

Where?

BarBar.

BarBar?

Happy hour pricing until midnight.

[Dancing eyes-rolled-back T-Rex]"

In the former, the emoji communicates derision. In the latter, playfulness. Depending on the style of animation and context, the emoji could further communicate cuteness versus tactile incompetence, letting go versus a loss of control, subject versus object.

The process of decoding an emoji is analogous to a simplified form of interpreting art. Why is that there? Am I supposed to interpret it using the positive or negative connotation? In some cases, less ambiguity is desired. But in others, the ambiguity itself carries information of a sort impossible to parse into words.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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I'm not sure what I'm expecting to be honest, but I never use any of the in-built macOS apps so I just skim over those announcements. They don't seem like they should be part of what's considered the OS.

Why not? Would you rather macOS shipped with no system apps?

System apps like Terminal, Disk Utility, Preview, etc. Yes.

Stocks, News, iTunes, Maps, Photos, Mail, etc, should be optional.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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The fact that they’re wildly popular should provide some indication that the qualities exist. Communication is rife with ambiguities, emotion, shortcuts, and mistakes. And between people who share friendship or more personal relationships, those “flaws” are often features, not bugs. The concept of emoji, I feel, embraces those flaws. (And personally speaking on the subject of emoji vs common text shorthand, if I neve…

> The fact that they’re wildly popular should provide some indication that the qualities exist. Really? Pet rocks were wildly popular. Unhealthy foods are wildly popular. Cocaine is wildly popular (well maybe that's a stretch). I think there's a correlation problem here. However, I think you're missing the point again; _what can I convey via an emoji that I cannot convey in ascii_? I have yet to see a single example,…

Pet rocks were popular for 5 minutes. Unhealthy foods are perpetually popular because they have the quality of tasting wonderful.

And neither of you tried to address the core argument I made in the parent, that emoji reflect the inherent messiness of personal communications and for that matter personal relationships.

The same reason it’s important (but inefficient) to tell someone you love them in nonverbal ways is the reason emoji are popular. We all appreciate communications that extend beyond the written word. Emoji is just another option among many for achieving that.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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It's amazing that so many bright minds are wasting time on *oji.

Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

I suffer from social anxiety. There were a lot of times in the past when I would receive a text and fail to reply because I got stuck trying to figure out how to express myself "correctly". Emojis and the normalization of emoji-heavy texts help me a lot.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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I read the whole thing. The emojis serve a purpose. Text doesn't serve that purpose. I don't know how to describe the niche they fill with text. They're not a stand-in for emoticons. You don't get it. It's okay. Not everything is for you.

> I don't know how to describe the niche they fill with text. Consider the possibility that this is because there isn't one.

HN doesn't support emoji, so here's an example: https://cybre.space/@Riley/100149464360818801

The meaning is immediately clear to anyone familiar with the reference. It's basically a pictographic language that leans heavily on a shared culture that's largely internet-based.

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